A community server

Crooksey · 2006-12-14 22:34:39

I own the website, http://phil0d0x.com, with this site i get u/l bandwitdh, downloads and sub domains, so i thought....

Why not make a pacman server, the username and password would be easily availible, so it would be like a community maintained repo.

The user and pass woudlnt be found on the web, but i can give it out to anyone who aks.

So its 100% user inputted.

Just as idea, would it work?

neotuli · 2006-12-14 23:15:37

_OR_ if someone's intereted in doing that, they could become a TU and get access to the [community] repo, which is part of the AUR project.

Chman · 2006-12-14 23:25:10

Just as idea, would it work?

Could work... But it would need some "security/testing" team to avoid dangerous packages and that would be difficult to maintain IMHO.

iBertus · 2006-12-15 02:06:55

You could provide a mirror of the current arch repos. I'm sure the added bandwidth would be appreciated.

Lone_Wolf · 2006-12-15 20:11:23

Unsupported AUR could also use a mirror ...

glad · 2006-12-15 22:34:14

Sounds like a good idea to me, but could i run a counter strike server on your server, i'm running it on my own server now, but i want to switch to a bf2 server and i have a little to small upload for both of the games..

Snarkout · 2006-12-15 22:44:29

How much traffic does a mirror usually pull?

pelle.k · 2006-12-16 00:44:18

I think this is a great idea if you ask me. This way i could share a few packages without being a TU. Users adding packages from this repo must be informed that it is not an official part of the Arch distro, but a complement, and might also not be as stable (or safe) as the "real" repos.

Crooksey · 2006-12-16 17:40:06

Ok it will be up when domain name decided.

it will be <name>.phil0d0x.com (phil0d0x.com is my server)

How about

1) uoarch.phil0d0x.com
2) archrepo.phil0d0x.com
3) archowns.phil0d0x.com << nice much?

Any other suggestions?

Ill also make a front page for the site, listing all package on there, plus whether they are stable or not.

pelle.k · 2006-12-17 00:32:19

I'm just brainstorming a bit, but what about;
all packages have their PKGBUILD.tar.gz next to them, and also a .txt file with some additional package info.

It would also be a great idea to have some kind of simple messaging system/board so that people could report broken packages and/or bugs. This may be a little much to ask of you, but you asked for suggestions...

I also think it would be a great idea to have packages built from AUR (if there is supposed to be any...) in another section than the "no origin" ones.

iphitus · 2006-12-17 08:37:39

arch.phil0d0x.com ?

pelle.k: Having the PKGBUILD with the package, is no guarantee a package is safe, as there's nothing to prove that package was made with that PKGBUILD.

Crooksey: It's a nice idea for an ideal world, but imho, it's just going to be too dangerous. I suggest the following:

Setup flyspray or something, and if someone wishes you to add a package, they open a bug and attach the PKGBUILD to the bug. That user remains the maintainer of the package.

You then check it, build it and put it in the repository yourself. THe user posts a new bug whenever the package needs to be updated/fixed. You can also assign bugs to that user should people have bugs for that package.

As a result, the user maintains the package via proxy, with you building and ensuring they are safe. Over time as you trust users, you could add them with write access.

James

Crooksey · 2006-12-17 21:25:00

Ok so i set up the domain http://arch.phil0d0x.com

Its an unofficial repo, on the homepage there is a list of all current packages and their state.

On another page there is a message forum, where users can post errors/bugs or new packages.

If i were to get hold of a file upload script, i could modify it to have no file limit, so packages could go staright onto the FTP, then after testing they are moved into the folder where the repo is?

Crooksey · 2006-12-17 23:31:04

The domain name is up: http://arch.phil0d0x.com/

Feedback on the design and layout would be appreciated

glad · 2006-12-18 06:59:09

i think its a bad idea that we have to send our pkgbuilds to you, i dont see the problem by letting other users upload their pkgbuilds, isn't it the persons who "freely" choose to use our community packages that takes the risk? users don't have to use the server, evryone is "free to choose"

scarney · 2006-12-18 07:08:38

glad: i think in todays world, there is a need for overseeing.

Crooksey: there is a typo on the main page..

######
[PAR]
Server = http://arch.phil0d0x.com/stable
Server = http://arch.phil0d0x.com/tetsing < testing

also, i find the green text a bit hard to read, maybe increase the size a little?, or maybe the color to a gray or somthing.

nice work!

Crooksey · 2006-12-18 08:28:17

When i get back from xmas shopping today (sigh), ill make the text bigger, white and also fix the typo,

I have said "send them" fro the time being, as i haven't found a file upload script, second of all when a user upload its, it will be placed in

http://arch.phil0d0x.com/temp

I wont make that a repo, as thats to risky, not until i have tested the file it will be moved.

phrakture · 2006-12-18 22:05:27

So... let me get this straight...
You want to make a "community maintained repo" where users can upload packages and PKGBUILDs?

What does this system have that the AUR doesn't? If there is something missing that you're trying to do, why not improve the AUR instead of doing something completely different?

neotuli · 2006-12-18 23:06:36

phrakture wrote:

So... let me get this straight...
You want to make a "community maintained repo" where users can upload packages and PKGBUILDs?
What does this system have that the AUR doesn't? If there is something missing that you're trying to do, why not improve the AUR instead of doing something completely different?

Exactly! I guess people missed the point of my sarcastic post earlier.

Crooksey · 2006-12-18 23:52:49

Yes, but i didn't think becoming a TU was easy, so did this.

ralvez · 2006-12-18 23:58:10

I think that Crooksey has made a generous offer with his server but perhaps it would be better to have the added power of that server as a mirror and he can use the time he would devote to maintain the "independent" server to add packages and maintain them. Then if the powers that be give him TU status we all get 100% return of the investment.

Just an idea.

R

phrakture · 2006-12-19 00:04:47

Crooksey wrote:

Yes, but i didn't think becoming a TU was easy, so did this.

Sure it is. You just have to prove that you can make packages. This is typically done by putting some in the AUR. Once you get a few in there, just introduce yourself on the tur-users mailing list, and let everyone know you're interested in becoming a TU.

neotuli · 2006-12-19 00:22:02

And if you're interested in developing aur-like software, and even willing to donate some of your resources. Get in touch with me (I manage the AUR). We're always in need of more volunteers and the existing code is in a subversion repo.

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