[Solved] Keyboard problems with cedilla

cezarcruz · 2024-04-06 00:33:54

Hello,

I'm starting with arch linux coming from Ubuntu.

In my workflow I've a Keycrhon K8 keyboard using a US International Layout (to use things like ç, I'm brazilian) and my system uses English as a main language.

I realy don´t know why, but in archlinux with gnome or any other DE '+c turn in ć instead of cedilla.

To make my keyboard works fine, I need to use my system with Portuguese language, but I would like to use my system in English,

any ideas how to make this happen?

ty.

some images to context: https://imgur.com/a/NMWoOeu

Last edited by cezarcruz (2024-04-06 23:11:57)

seth · 2024-04-06 06:35:37

localectl
locale
locale -a

dadkey handling is provided by your https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Input_method - gnome/gtk defaults to ibus, the general default on X11 would be xcompose and the default US map has

<dead_acute> <Ccedilla>                         : "Ḉ"   U1E08 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <dead_cedilla> <C>                 : "Ḉ"   U1E08 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <Multi_key> <comma> <C>            : "Ḉ"   U1E08 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <Multi_key> <cedilla> <C>          : "Ḉ"   U1E08 # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <ccedilla>                         : "ḉ"   U1E09 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <dead_cedilla> <c>                 : "ḉ"   U1E09 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <Multi_key> <comma> <c>            : "ḉ"   U1E09 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE
<dead_acute> <Multi_key> <cedilla> <c>          : "ḉ"   U1E09 # LATIN SMALL LETTER C WITH CEDILLA AND ACUTE

(dead_grave/acute and c don't cause a cedilla) - I don't have the Compose map for other locales around, so I can't immediately grep whether any other map does that (butit depends on your locale, so we can look there)

Did you use a brazilian/portuguese locale on ubuntu?

cezarcruz · 2024-04-06 12:19:41

Running this comands:
Language English
Formats Brasil
Keyboard Us, alt. intl.

localectl 
System Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8
               LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8
               LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_BR.UTF-8
    VC Keymap: us
   X11 Layout: us
    X11 Model: pc105+inet
  X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

locale
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_NAME="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

locale -a
C
C.utf8
en_US.utf8
POSIX
pt_BR.utf8

Language Portuguese
Formats Brasil
Keyboard Us, alt. intl.

localectl 
System Locale: LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8
    VC Keymap: us
   X11 Layout: us
    X11 Model: pc105+inet
  X11 Options: terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp

locale
LANG=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_CTYPE="pt_BR.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TIME=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="pt_BR.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="pt_BR.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_NAME="pt_BR.UTF-8"
LC_ADDRESS=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=pt_BR.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION="pt_BR.UTF-8"
LC_ALL=

locale -a
C
C.utf8
en_US.utf8
POSIX
pt_BR.utf8

Did you use a brazilian/portuguese locale on ubuntu?

Yes, and works out of the box

seth · 2024-04-06 15:23:18

grep -iE 'dead_[ga]' /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose | grep -i ced

But /usr/share/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose might also include other locales.

This seems to be a frequent issue, btw.
https://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthre … -solutions
You can either use the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale,

export XCOMPOSEFILE=/usr/share/X11/locale/pt_BR.UTF-8/Compose

[edit: bounced export]
or in your own ~/.XCompose

# use US compositions by default - don#t forget that, w/o you'll not get any other dead-key behavior
include "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose"

# but give me my funky ç with a tail
<dead_acute> <C> : "Ç"
<dead_acute> <c> : "ç"

Last edited by seth (2024-04-07 06:50:17)

cezarcruz · 2024-04-06 23:10:10

the second solution (XCompose) worked, but I can't exacly understand the problem.

but, thank you for your time.

seth · 2024-04-07 06:49:32

The behavior you sought is part of the pt_BR.UTF-8 locale (deadkey *behavior* is not part of the keyboard configuration)
If you're missing other deadkey features, you can use the XCOMPOSEFILE, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Environment_variables

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#1 2024-04-06 00:33:54

[Solved] Keyboard problems with cedilla

#2 2024-04-06 06:35:37

Re: [Solved] Keyboard problems with cedilla

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