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#1 2024-04-08 11:01:43

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None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

I updated my system and it seemed to be only minor updates, however, none of the KDE PIM apps (KMail, Akregator, Kontact) work anymore. They all freeze upon launch and then I have to terminate the app because it's not responding.

I've checked Akonadi and it says it's all fine. Did a file system check, vacuum, no problem. Restarted with --verbose and shows no real errors, everything up and running. I also got a notification popping up in the system tray about a new email.

When I start KMail or Kontact from the CLI, I don't see any real errors, except this message:

kf.windowsystem: KWindowInfo is only functional when running on X11

I'm running the latest KDE Plasma 6, so I'm on Wayland. But that shouldn't be a problem since I've been running it since it came out.

I also tried to downgrade some packages, to no avail. From the Pacman log, I can see these packages were updated:

[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] transaction started
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded alsa-card-profiles (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] warning: directory permissions differ on /boot/, filesystem: 700  package: 755
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded filesystem (2024.01.19-1 -> 2024.04.07-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded util-linux-libs (2.40-1 -> 2.40-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded bubblewrap (0.8.0-1 -> 0.9.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libnghttp2 (1.60.0-1 -> 1.61.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded xz (5.6.1-2 -> 5.6.1-3)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded curl (8.7.1-3 -> 8.7.1-5)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded exiv2 (0.28.2-2 -> 0.28.2-3)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded noto-fonts (1:24.3.1-1 -> 1:24.4.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libx11 (1.8.8-2 -> 1.8.9-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libpciaccess (0.18.1-1 -> 0.18.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded mesa (1:24.0.3-2 -> 1:24.0.4-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded sdl2 (2.30.1-1 -> 2.30.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded gnutls (3.8.4-1 -> 3.8.5-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded hwdata (0.380-1 -> 0.381-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pcre2 (10.43-1 -> 10.43-3)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded shadow (4.15.1-1 -> 4.15.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded util-linux (2.40-1 -> 2.40-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libopenmpt (0.7.6-1 -> 0.7.6-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:47+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pango (1:1.52.1-1 -> 1:1.52.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libtiff (4.6.0-2 -> 4.6.0-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libunwind (1.8.1-1 -> 1.8.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded gtk-update-icon-cache (1:4.14.1-1 -> 1:4.14.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libxkbcommon (1.7.0-1 -> 1.7.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libproxy (0.5.4-1 -> 0.5.5-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded tracker3 (3.7.1-1 -> 3.7.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded firefox (124.0.1-1 -> 124.0.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libarchive (3.7.2-1 -> 3.7.2-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libmalcontent (0.11.1-4 -> 0.12.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libxmlb (0.3.15-1 -> 0.3.17-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libassuan (2.5.7-1 -> 2.5.7-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libgirepository (1.80.0-1 -> 1.80.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded gobject-introspection-runtime (1.80.0-1 -> 1.80.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libpipewire (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pipewire (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded flatpak (1:1.15.6-2 -> 1:1.15.7-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded fluidsynth (2.3.4-1 -> 2.3.5-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded go (2:1.22.1-1 -> 2:1.22.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libxkbcommon-x11 (1.7.0-1 -> 1.7.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded gtk4 (1:4.14.1-1 -> 1:4.14.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded jansson (2.14-2 -> 2.14-3)
[2024-04-08T10:02:48+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-translations (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-base (6.6.2-4 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-declarative (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-multimedia-ffmpeg (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-multimedia (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-svg (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-wayland (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded kirigami-addons (1.0.1-1 -> 1.1.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-shadertools (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-5compat (6.6.2-2 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-sensors (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-tools (6.6.2-2 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pipewire-session-manager (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded tdb (1.4.10-1 -> 1.4.10-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded kwin (6.0.3.1-1 -> 6.0.3.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded tevent (1:0.16.1-1 -> 1:0.16.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded ldb (2:2.9.0-1 -> 2:2.9.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-libnghttp2 (1.60.0-1 -> 1.61.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-curl (8.7.1-2 -> 8.7.1-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-xz (5.6.1-2 -> 5.6.1-3)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded lib32-mesa (1:24.0.3-2 -> 1:24.0.4-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libaccounts-qt (1.16-5 -> 1.17-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:49+0200] [ALPM] upgraded liblc3 (1.0.4-1 -> 1.1.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:50+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libreoffice-fresh (24.2.2-1 -> 24.2.2-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:50+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libuv (1.48.0-1 -> 1.48.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:50+0200] [ALPM] upgraded libwbclient (4.20.0-1 -> 4.20.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:50+0200] [ALPM] upgraded linux (6.8.2.arch2-1 -> 6.8.4.arch1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded linux-headers (6.8.2.arch2-1 -> 6.8.4.arch1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded mbedtls2 (2.28.7-1 -> 2.28.8-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded meld (3.22.2-1 -> 3.22.2-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded mesa-utils (9.0.0-3 -> 9.0.0-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded nodejs (21.7.1-1 -> 21.7.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded node-gyp (10.1.0-1 -> 10.1.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded npm (10.5.0-1 -> 10.5.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded opencolorio (2.3.1-2 -> 2.3.2-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded prrte (3.0.5-1 -> 3.0.5-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded openmpi (5.0.2-7 -> 5.0.2-8)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pciutils (3.11.1-1 -> 3.12.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pipewire-audio (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pipewire-pulse (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded pulse-native-provider (1:1.0.4-3 -> 1:1.0.4-4)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-contourpy (1.2.0-1 -> 1.2.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-fonttools (4.50.0-1 -> 4.51.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] installed python-typeguard (4.2.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-inflect (7.0.0-3 -> 7.2.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-matplotlib (3.8.3-1 -> 3.8.3-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-qtpy (2.4.1-1 -> 2.4.1-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-sentry_sdk (1.44.0-1 -> 1.44.1-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded python-twisted (22.10.0-3 -> 24.3.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt5-webengine (5.15.16-5 -> 5.15.16-6)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-charts (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-websockets (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-httpserver (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-imageformats (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-positioning (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-location (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-networkauth (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-quicktimeline (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-quick3d (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-scxml (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-speech (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-virtualkeyboard (6.6.2-2 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:51+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-webchannel (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-webengine (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded qt6-webview (6.6.2-1 -> 6.6.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded rsync (3.2.7-6 -> 3.3.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded s-tui (1.1.4-6 -> 1.1.6-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded smbclient (4.20.0-1 -> 4.20.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded samba (4.20.0-1 -> 4.20.0-2)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded soundtouch (2.3.2-1 -> 2.3.3-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded typescript (5.4.3-1 -> 5.4.4-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded vim-runtime (9.1.0151-2 -> 9.1.0252-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded vim (9.1.0151-2 -> 9.1.0252-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded vscode-html-languageserver (1.87.0-1 -> 1.88.0-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded xorg-server-common (21.1.11-2 -> 21.1.12-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] upgraded xorg-server (21.1.11-2 -> 21.1.12-1)
[2024-04-08T10:02:52+0200] [ALPM] transaction completed

There's no KDE package listed, nor Akonadi, the package upgrade that could be problematic are perhaps the qt6 or xorg ones? But like I said, I downgraded the most likely candidates and that made no difference.

Any ideas what I could try? There are no useful messages about missing libraries etc. in journalctl, so the only thing I have to go on is the 'KWindowInfo' message quoted above.

Last edited by 1202 (2024-04-08 17:47:56)

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#2 2024-04-08 12:21:58

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Registered: 2018-01-12
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Re: None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

Perhaps this has anything to do with it? https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … 1f2f5112b9

Package update from not an hour ago. Installed it, still doesn't solve my issue, so might be a different issue, but it does refer to 'crashing'.

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#3 2024-04-08 17:45:34

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Re: None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

Hi, I'm able to replicate being unable to open Kmail since updating to Plasma 6.0.3 Wayland. I've just switched to trying opening Kmail in Plasma 6.0.3 X11 and indeed could open Kmail. I'm using a Nvidia 3060.

Could you replicate as to if you also can open on Plasma X11?  And also maybe specify your GPU.
Something relevant I've found whilst trying to have fixed this Kmail nonsense was https://www.mail-archive.com/kde-bugs-d … 06096.html, but the most recent suggestion on disable GPU has not worked for me in Plasma Wayland.

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#4 2024-04-08 18:57:37

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Re: None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

Hi, good to hear I'm not the only one facing this issue!

I've got a NVIDIA RTX 4070, so we're pretty much in the same boat on that front.

I don't have the option to switch to a X11 session. I could install the additional packages (I think), but I decided to try downgrading qt6. Because I was triggered by the title of today's commit done for the KMail package:

upgpkg: 24.02.1-2: Rebuild with Qt 6.6.3 to fix crashes

Indeed, as you can see from my Pacman log, all qt6 packages are updated from version 6.6.2-2 to 6.6.3-1. That could explain the reason of the crash and the necessity for the fix.

To find out if this is correct, I downgraded all qt6 packages to 6.6.2-2. Then started KMail, and voila! Everything works fine again.

It does make me wonder why the fix was made if it doesn't really work (like I said, I tried it, even with a restart). And why there were no updates for Kontact, Akregator, etc.
I will try to get the attention of the maintainers/devs to this issue, so it can hopefully be fixed.

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#5 2024-04-09 15:42:33

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Re: None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

Upstream https://bugreports.qt.io/browse/QTBUG-124174 related bug/Upstream is aware.

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#6 2024-04-15 19:07:58

tsukimomo
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Re: None of the KDE PIM apps can start anymore after update

Hi, I've just gotten back to my nvidia machine, the recent set of updates pushing qt6-base to 6.7.0 and a few other nvidia packaging updates has solved the issue for me. Could you check if it works for you too?

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