Opera / bon echo

normc · 2006-12-23 00:21:45

I've been running Bon Echo and today I tried Opera 9.10 and it seems faster has any body else noticed this or is it just me :?:

Gullible Jones · 2006-12-23 00:50:42

Opera is definitely faster than Firefox, and will remain so for a long time.

ToastedToad · 2006-12-23 03:23:12

Yes it seems to be faster.

Basu · 2006-12-23 04:51:06

Gullible Jones wrote:

Opera is definitely faster than Firefox, and will remain so for a long time.

This may seem stupid, but why?

iBertus · 2006-12-23 04:59:39

Basu wrote:

Gullible Jones wrote:
Opera is definitely faster than Firefox, and will remain so for a long time.
This may seem stupid, but why?

Mozilla always has been slow, always will be slow. Until a complete rewrite, that is.

Mr Green · 2006-12-23 15:52:15

Wow opera is nice .... if I could just get search bar up a line ;-)

delphinen · 2006-12-23 16:13:04

Opera is the best browser for any UNIX at the moment; All the hype about Mozilla Firefox is fueled by a huge marketing campaign, the browser itself its really not that great.

detto · 2006-12-23 16:32:31

Concerning opera and fonts and multimedia:
I just at this very moment got archlinux installed again after a long time (using new 0.8 iso), and only got xorg+opera. xorg is already set up but it seems im missing some font package, coz operas (in application as in web sites) look pretty ugly :S

and in which way i can achieve flash9 and embedded videos into opera?

stonecrest · 2006-12-23 18:51:20

delphinen wrote:

Opera is the best browser for any UNIX at the moment; All the hype about Mozilla Firefox is fueled by a huge marketing campaign, the browser itself its really not that great.

Zoranthus · 2006-12-23 19:22:39

detto wrote:

and in which way i can achieve flash9 and embedded videos into opera?

Get the update file
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer9/
copy it to the plugins dir (should be /usr/lib/opera/plugins by default
Go to tools->preferences->advanced->content->plugin-options and click "find new".

Just changed to opera too.. wow it's fast. And it has a cool integrated bittorrent client.. jesus what a nice browser. Never tried it for some reason.

scarecrow · 2006-12-23 22:02:04

Opera is nice, is fast as well, but so far 9.10 has crashed a few times when trying to manage a java applet - HERE if anyone wishes to see if he has a better luck...
Konqueror does not load the page at all, complaining about a java incompatibility, so I only have Firefox loading it flawlessly...
BTW I'm not a big fan of Firefox, either- if Opera (or even Konqueror!) could use a more practical way managing RSS feeds, then I would convert instantly.

Avenger · 2006-12-23 23:04:40

The java-applet works perfectly here, both on windows and my arch-box. Version 9.10 of course.

normc · 2006-12-23 23:10:39

Works for me both FF and opera.

scarecrow · 2006-12-23 23:13:36

Huh... strange. It keeps crashing here.
Using opera-devel from AUR.

test1000 · 2006-12-23 23:34:36

that's noit the newest is it? someone posted a opera 9.10 pkg here at the forum.

fk · 2006-12-23 23:38:21

test1000 wrote:

that's noit the newest is it? someone posted a opera 9.10 pkg here at the forum.

Look in AUR, the 9.10 Package is in community

skottish · 2006-12-24 07:20:23

If you use Konqueror as your web browser and you disable IPv6 by adding this line to the end of your '/etc/profile.d/kde.sh' file (if you use Bash):

export KDE_NO_IPV6

You can get Opera and Firefox like speeds with all of the benefits of KDE.

Mr Green · 2006-12-24 08:27:25

opera keeps firing up as irc client here lol

Acid7711 · 2006-12-24 09:07:27

Opera is nice, and I'd use it if they could fix a couple stupid inconstancies with their software that the rest of the companies in the world who make web browsers have seemed to agree upon. Being unique only goes so far before it becomes more of a hassle. On another side note, there are a few pages I tried when I gave Opera a shot that would render so incorrectly that the page was basically useless. I was forced to load these in any other browser and they showed up fine.

I looooove FireFox, but the recent changes in 2.0, whatever they are, have been giving me non-stop FF crashes. Not just me either, friends of mine and tons of people across the interweb. Dunknow what would change the operation of their program so drastically. Be nice if they could fix this.

I understand the 'recover' feature is nice to have, just sucks that I and a lot of others are forced to 'test out' the recover feature so often in version 2+

RedShift · 2006-12-24 12:14:40

Opera is nice, I prefer it above firefox, but it does have it's own annoyances. Like for example when your cursor is positioned in an input box, you can't ctrl + l to go to another location. Selecting text is totally b0rken and sometimes it doesn't even work at all.

FUBAR · 2006-12-24 12:52:41

Mr Green wrote:

Wow opera is nice .... if I could just get search bar up a line ;-)

Right click the search bar and select "Customize". You can completely customize Opera's looks.

Opera ftw, I've been using it since 5.x and I've loved it ever since. Although I upgraded my 9.0.2 to 9.10-devel last week because it kept segfaulting all of a sudden.

Tatey · 2006-12-24 13:29:59

I think that Opera is a nice browser. However, it's not FOSS software and therefore I won't use it. I have Opera installed simply to test websites in (XHTML/CSS). Firefox 2 has been *very* stable, I haven't encountered any issues as such.

Romashka · 2006-12-25 12:26:57

stonecrest wrote:

delphinen wrote:
Opera is the best browser for any UNIX at the moment; All the hype about Mozilla Firefox is fueled by a huge marketing campaign, the browser itself its really not that great.

We all know you like Firefox and dislike Opera, right?

Romashka · 2006-12-25 12:34:38

Tatey wrote:

I think that Opera is a nice browser. However, it's not FOSS software and therefore I won't use it.

That's too religious, IMHO.

Tatey wrote:

I have Opera installed simply to test websites in (XHTML/CSS). Firefox 2 has been *very* stable, I haven't encountered any issues as such.

Yes, it's stable, but Firefox eats much more memory when you live it running for many hours.
Try to google why some people patch FF for using openbsd memory allocator.
It's sad.

The worst thing for me is that they haven't fixed one bug, which was opened 6 years ago, is still valid, and easy to fix. There is even extension to workaround it -" Russian keyboard shortcuts". :evil:

Tatey · 2006-12-25 13:15:36

Romashka wrote:

Tatey wrote:
I think that Opera is a nice browser. However, it's not FOSS software and therefore I won't use it.
That's too religious, IMHO.

I respect your opinion, but allow me to elaborate. My policy is to use FOSS software in preference to proprietary software. However, I acknowledge that this is not always *practical* in special circumstances, such as nVidia 3D graphical support. In this scenario, there is no viable alternative.

At any rate, I'm not contesting that Opera is a great browser. I agree on many levels that Firefox is slow, not just because of the browser itself, but Gecko. I'd really like to see another alternative FOSS browser. What ever happened to the GTK WebCore port? None the less, Firefox is FOSS, Opera is not.

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