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#1 2024-06-03 19:45:50

Librehosseini
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Laptop overheating when suspended

I have a dangerous problem with arch and please help me

When I put Arch Linux in suspend mode, everything goes as expected, but the laptop gets very hot. After I get out of suspend mode, that is, I wake up the laptop, the laptop fans work at the highest possible speed. The temperature rises to 52 degrees.
what can i do?

my laptop is HP Victus by HP Gaming Laptop 15-fa1xxx

13th Gen Intel® Core™ i5-13420H × 12, 32.0 GiB memory

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#2 2024-06-03 19:56:40

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

# cat /sys/power/mem_sleep
[s2idle]

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#3 2024-06-03 22:42:59

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

First and foremost check for UEFI updates, make sure you've https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/intel-ucode/ installed and loaded and then avoid suspend-to-ram and hibernate the system instead.
[Edit: and try the behavior w/ a different kernel, eg. the LTS one]

Since you're stressing the "with arch" part, is there a second OS (windows)?

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#4 2024-06-04 04:09:02

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

I installed Ucode smile
what is different middle default kernel and LTS?

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#5 2024-06-04 04:10:11

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

No. I used to dual boot, but now I only have arch

What I mean by emphasis is that I cannot run drivers and some Windows software. It was a note

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#6 2024-06-04 06:26:42

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

Your laptop does not support S3 ("true") sleep. I know because I almost bought it!

All the same, it should be able to idle without heating up. Does this only happen when you suspend by closing the lid, or does it happen all the time? Can you check 'journalctl -b' the next time it happens? Perhaps your laptop is waking up early and not staying asleep.

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#7 2024-06-04 06:54:11

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

what is different middle default kernel and LTS?

https://archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux-lts/ - it's to check whether this is a kernel regression.

s2idle might fail, but the worrysome part is that "the laptop gets very hot" and the fans apparently only activate after resuming (or was this coincidental?)

If this doesn't fix w/ a UEFI update, please post a complete system journal covering the incident (ie. sleep for five minutes ow whatever you can justify before the system heats up too much and then post the journal of that boot) - should tell us whether something's going on on the OS level during the sleep.

Otherwise and in the meantime, as mentioned, prefer to hibernate the system as that will actually shut it down.

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#8 2024-06-04 07:59:13

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

Does that mean I can't close the laptop when it's on? sad so bad,
We have to solve the problem
Hibernation does not solve the problem, it is only a short-term solution

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#9 2024-06-04 08:02:44

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

Will the problem be solved after installing linux-lts? This problem must be solved!
Where should I report this problem?
thanks smile

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#10 2024-06-04 08:05:09

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

And what should I do now? I did not understand properly!

First I send you the full system journal, then suspend the laptop for five minutes, and after five minutes, wake it up and send you the boot journal?

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#11 2024-06-04 08:16:39

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

I have now installed linux lts. Want to activate?

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#12 2024-06-04 08:21:08

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

no, linux-lts will likely not fix it, as it's a new laptop, but you can try.

First I send you the full system journal, then suspend the laptop for five minutes, and after five minutes, wake it up and send you the boot journal?

suspend for 5 mins, then send the output of 'journalctl -b 0 |  | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st'

Some blind shots, if you don't know what I'm talking about then you didn't do anything:
Have you masked suspend.target?
Changed /etc/systemd/logind.conf?
Any custom suspend scripts?

please don't multipost and be more patient!

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#13 2024-06-04 08:22:02

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

[mahdi@parabyte ~]$ uname -r
6.6.32-1-lts

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#14 2024-06-04 08:23:30

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

jl2 wrote:

no, linux-lts will likely not fix it, as it's a new laptop, but you can try.

First I send you the full system journal, then suspend the laptop for five minutes, and after five minutes, wake it up and send you the boot journal?

suspend for 5 mins, then send the output of 'journalctl -b 0 |  | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st'

Some blind shots, if you don't know what I'm talking about then you didn't do anything:
Have you masked suspend.target?
Changed /etc/systemd/logind.conf?
Any custom suspend scripts?

please don't multipost and be more patient!

I am an average Linux user. I need to do more research smile

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#15 2024-06-04 08:28:16

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

http://0x0.st/Xq91.txt

here you are, my system log smile

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#16 2024-06-04 08:34:15

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

Could the problem be due to the incompatibility of my nvidia driver?

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#17 2024-06-04 08:41:38

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

My problem was not solved with linux lts

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#18 2024-06-04 08:46:57

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

jl2 wrote:

Some blind shots, if you don't know what I'm talking about then you didn't do anything:

If I knew everything, I would not ask questions in this forum, but I would answer other people's questions :!

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#19 2024-06-04 08:52:55

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

please don't multipost. your last 8 posts could have been combined into one. If you look for a more real-time expirience, the arch linux irc channels are open to you.

your laptop takes around 3mins to suspend after a suspend call, and some process crashes, as far as I understand intel_runtime_pm_driver_release ?

can you do the same for the non-lts kernel?
Do your fans also run wild after 'systemctl suspend'?

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#20 2024-06-04 13:08:48

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … mpty_posts
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Genera … es#Bumping
Actually read the entire page.

Then, while counter-intuitive, try https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Intel_ … Intel_CPUs
Have you check whether there UEFI updates enabled?

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#21 2024-06-05 19:36:03

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

seth wrote:

All these options create other problems! Does that mean I can't do a simple suspension?

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#22 2024-06-05 19:40:26

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

seth wrote:

Have you check whether there UEFI updates enabled?

yes smile

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#23 2024-06-05 19:43:57

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

seth wrote:

Have you check whether there UEFI updates enabled?

That's not even english - what I meant was to check for UEFI updates andthe point of testing those kernel parameters is to narrow down the cause of the problem.
If you're not willing to do that the answer is that the status quo must inevitably prevail, ie. no.: you cannot suspend the system.

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#24 2024-06-05 19:51:10

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

seth wrote:
seth wrote:

Have you check whether there UEFI updates enabled?

That's not even english - what I meant was to check for UEFI updates andthe point of testing those kernel parameters is to narrow down the cause of the problem.
If you're not willing to do that the answer is that the status quo must inevitably prevail, ie. no.: you cannot suspend the system.


I am willing to do anything to fix this situation, but I am not a Linux engineer or a software engineer! A simple programmer smile

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#25 2024-06-05 19:53:12

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Re: Laptop overheating when suspended

seth wrote:

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