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#26 2006-12-25 13:39:05

Romashka
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Re: Opera / bon echo

Tatey wrote:
Romashka wrote:
Tatey wrote:

I think that Opera is a nice browser. However, it's not FOSS software and therefore I won't use it.

That's too religious, IMHO.

I respect your opinion, but allow me to elaborate. My policy is to use FOSS software in preference to proprietary software

Respect your opinion too, that's why I added IMHO. smile

Tatey wrote:

What ever happened to the GTK WebCore port? None the less, Firefox is FOSS, Opera is not.

IMHO GTK-app devs are just not very interested in WebCore.
Now KDE devs think about merging WebCore & KHTML into one sourcebase.
There are plans to add optional WebCore/KHTML switch in KDE4, and then see what to do next.

I use Epiphany, because it's not overloaded with XUL-based extensions.
IIRC Galeon devs decided to abandon Galeon as a standalone browser and make it as a set of extensions for Epiphany.

About Gecko - they finally started to do something really useful for 1.9, like code refactoring & cleaning, fixing rendering bugs (now it passes ACID2) and adding new features. I don't know about work on memory issues though.


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#27 2006-12-25 15:41:56

Gullible Jones
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Re: Opera / bon echo

Romashka wrote:

Yes, it's stable, but Firefox eats much more memory when you live it running for many hours.
Try to google why some people patch FF for using openbsd memory allocator. wink
It's sad. sad

Nitpick: they fixed that in 2.0, at least as far as I can tell. Firefox is still big and slow but it consumes a lot less memory than it did, and doesn't appear to leak any more (or at least leaks much more slowly).

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#28 2006-12-28 09:41:16

dmax
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Re: Opera / bon echo

I still use Bon Echo it works pretty good.

Just wish all the plugins would work with Opera... like mplayer and so on.

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#29 2006-12-28 12:10:21

fk
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Re: Opera / bon echo

I think the bigger problem are the rendering issues.

With Windows XP, and FF2 the Arch Front Pager looks good.
With Linux and FF2 therre are some rendering issues.


Have you tried to turn it off and on again?

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#30 2006-12-28 15:00:56

Tatey
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Re: Opera / bon echo

fk wrote:

I think the bigger problem are the rendering issues.

With Windows XP, and FF2 the Arch Front Pager looks good.
With Linux and FF2 therre are some rendering issues.

That's strange. FF2 on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux all render web pages identically for me. Are you using a standard build from the Arch?


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#31 2006-12-28 15:22:08

fk
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Re: Opera / bon echo

Tatey wrote:
fk wrote:

I think the bigger problem are the rendering issues.

With Windows XP, and FF2 the Arch Front Pager looks good.
With Linux and FF2 therre are some rendering issues.

That's strange. FF2 on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux all render web pages identically for me. Are you using a standard build from the Arch?

yes I use the standard build, I use Openbox as WM.

In WinXP the pakage search looks

arch1.jpg

In Arch (openbox) looks so

arch2.jpg


very wired, in xfce4 it looks like Win XP

arch3.jpg


I think this is a Openbox related Problem..


Have you tried to turn it off and on again?

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#32 2006-12-28 16:52:29

stonecrest
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Registered: 2005-01-22
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Re: Opera / bon echo

Fix your dpi in xorg.conf. xfce4 sets it for you when you startxfce4, openbox probably doesn't.


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#33 2006-12-28 20:21:04

Romashka
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Re: Opera / bon echo

stonecrest wrote:

Fix your dpi in xorg.conf. xfce4 sets it for you when you startxfce4, openbox probably doesn't.

When starting Xfce with exec xfce4-session in .xinitrc it uses dpi setting from xorg.conf.
Starting Xfce with startxfce4 always uses 96 dpi.


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#34 2006-12-28 22:04:52

iggy
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From: Germany, L.E. - Leipzig
Registered: 2004-10-17
Posts: 367

Re: Opera / bon echo

i have the same problem with firefox, that the package search is not there, where it should!

how can i calculate my dpi manually?
14.1" widescreen-tft - 1280x800px, nvidia-card

xdpyinfo says:
108x106 dots per inch

mfg iggy


sorry for my bad english smile

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#35 2006-12-28 23:09:40

fk
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From: Germany
Registered: 2006-04-29
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Re: Opera / bon echo

Hm, and how can I set the DPI?

[flo@dune ~]$ xdpyinfo | grep -B1 dot
  dimensions:    1024x768 pixels (250x182 millimeters)
  resolution:    104x107 dots per inch

If I calculate with the formula forom Arch Wiki, I have wired results


Have you tried to turn it off and on again?

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#36 2006-12-29 09:44:47

mini
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Registered: 2006-12-18
Posts: 138

Re: Opera / bon echo

I have not got Opera to work with quicktime trailers e.g.
http://www.filmweb.no/trailere/
BTW Firefox does not working either

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