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#1 2024-08-18 14:01:33

justasug
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Registered: 2014-08-03
Posts: 174

[SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

I have sometimes noticed that when I install a package (and its dependencies), upon removing the same package again, that certain packages don't get removed again by Pacman.
Now I have a reliable reproduction case and I can't figure out why one package remains.

I have installed the plasma package by doing:

sudo pacman -Syu plasma

Here is the Pacman log stemming from that:

[2024-08-18T14:48:46+0200] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Syu plasma'
[2024-08-18T14:48:46+0200] [PACMAN] synchronizing package lists
[2024-08-18T14:48:52+0200] [PACMAN] starting full system upgrade
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] running 'check-news.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] transaction started
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] installed bluez (5.77-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] installed bluez-qt (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] installed kconfig (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:22+0200] [ALPM] installed kcodecs (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kguiaddons (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed ki18n (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kcolorscheme (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kcoreaddons (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kwidgetsaddons (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kconfigwidgets (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed karchive (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kwindowsystem (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed polkit-qt6 (0.200.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kauth (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kbookmarks (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kcompletion (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kcrash (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:23+0200] [ALPM] installed kdbusaddons (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed breeze-icons (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kiconthemes (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kitemviews (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed knotifications (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kjobwidgets (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kservice (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-shadertools (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-5compat (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed qca-qt6 (2.3.9-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kwallet (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed media-player-info (24-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed solid (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kio (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kirigami (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kglobalaccel (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kxmlgui (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kcmutils (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kdeclarative (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed ksvg (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-activities (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kpackage (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed libplasma (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed bluedevil (1:6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed attica (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed syndication (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed knewstuff (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed frameworkintegration (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:26+0200] [ALPM] installed kdecoration (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed breeze (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed breeze-gtk (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed plymouth (24.004.60-8)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed breeze-plymouth (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed appstream-qt (1.0.3-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed archlinux-appstream-data (20240526-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed discount (3.0.0.d-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kidletime (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kitemmodels (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-multimedia-ffmpeg (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-multimedia (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kirigami-addons (1.4.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kstatusnotifieritem (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kuserfeedback (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed libaccounts-glib (1.27-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed libaccounts-qt (1.17-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed signond (8.61-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed accounts-qml-module (0.7-6)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed signon-kwallet-extension (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed signon-plugin-oauth2 (0.25-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed noto-fonts (1:24.8.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed signon-ui (0.17+20231016-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:27+0200] [ALPM] installed kaccounts-integration (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed purpose (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-websockets (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed qcoro-qt6 (0.10.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-webview (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed discover (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed source-highlight (3.1.9-12)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed gdb-common (15.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed gdb (15.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed python-psutil (6.0.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed python-pygdbmi (0.11.0.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed python-sentry_sdk (2.13.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed syntax-highlighting (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed drkonqi (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed libmalcontent (0.12.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed composefs (1.0.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed ostree (2024.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed xdg-dbus-proxy (0.1.5-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed geoclue (2.7.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed rtkit (0.13-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed xdg-desktop-portal (1.18.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed flatpak (1:1.15.10-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed flatpak-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kactivitymanagerd (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed libutempter (1.2.1-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kpty (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kdesu (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kparts (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kde-cli-tools (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed xsettingsd (1.0.2-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kde-gtk-config (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kholidays (1:6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed krunner (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kunitconversion (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kglobalacceld (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kquickcharts (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed layer-shell-qt (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed libkscreen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kscreenlocker (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed kwayland (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed libqaccessibilityclient-qt6 (0.6.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:28+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-sensors (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed kwin (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-activities-stats (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed kded (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed kdnssd (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed kdsoap-qt6 (2.2.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed kdsoap-ws-discovery-client (0.4.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-speech (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed sonnet (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed ktextwidgets (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libkexiv2 (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed a52dec (0.8.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed aribb24 (1.0.3-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed faad2 (2.11.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libmfx (23.2.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed ffmpeg4.4 (4.4.4-6)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libdca (0.0.7-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libdvbpsi (1:1.3.3-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libebml (1.4.5-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libmatroska (1.7.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libmpcdec (1:0.1+r475-6)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libmpeg2 (0.5.1-10)
[2024-08-18T14:49:29+0200] [ALPM] installed libtar (1.2.20-7)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed vlc (3.0.21-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed phonon-qt6-vlc (0.12.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed phonon-qt6 (4.12.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed talloc (2.4.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed libwbclient (4.20.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed cifs-utils (7.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed tevent (1:0.16.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed ldb (2:2.9.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed smbclient (4.20.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed kio-extras (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed kio-fuse (5.1.0-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed knotifyconfig (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed kpipewire (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed libksysguard (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed ksystemstats (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed editorconfig-core-c (0.12.9-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed ktexteditor (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed libqalculate (5.2.0.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed milou (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed ocean-sound-theme (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma5support (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed libdmtx (0.7.7-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed qrencode (4.1.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed prison (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-virtualkeyboard (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed libxaw (1.0.16-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed xorg-xmessage (1.0.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:30+0200] [ALPM] installed xorg-xsetroot (1.1.3-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed xorg-xwayland (24.1.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed qqc2-breeze-style (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed qqc2-desktop-style (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed ttf-hack (3.003-7)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed xdg-desktop-portal-kde (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:31+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-integration (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-workspace (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-quicktimeline (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed qt6-quick3d (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kdeplasma-addons (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kgamma (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed aha (0.5.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed clinfo (3.0.23.01.25-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed dmidecode (3.6-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed libdecor (0.2.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed mesa-utils (9.0.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed systemsettings (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed vulkan-tools (1.3.269-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed wayland-utils (1.2.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed xorg-xdpyinfo (1.3.4-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kinfocenter (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kmenuedit (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed freerdp2 (2.11.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed qtkeychain-qt6 (0.14.3-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed krdp (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kscreen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed ksshaskpass (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed socat (1.8.0.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kwallet-pam (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed kwrited (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:32+0200] [ALPM] installed oxygen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed oxygen-sounds (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed convertlit (1.8-12)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed libzip (1.10.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed ebook-tools (0.2.2-8)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed poppler-qt6 (24.08.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed kfilemetadata (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-browser-integration (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed baloo (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed noto-fonts-emoji (1:2.042-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed polkit-kde-agent (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed i2c-tools (4.3-6)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed ddcutil (2.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed powerdevil (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-desktop (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed smartmontools (7.4-2)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-disks (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-firewall (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed libmbim (1.30.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed libqrtr-glib (1.2.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed libqmi (1.34.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed ppp (2.5.0-3)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed modemmanager (1.22.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed modemmanager-qt (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:33+0200] [ALPM] installed networkmanager-qt (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-nm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed pulseaudio-qt (1.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-pa (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-sdk (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-systemmonitor (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed bolt (0.9.8-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-thunderbolt (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-vault (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-welcome (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plasma-workspace-wallpapers (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed plymouth-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed print-manager (1:6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed sddm (0.21.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed sddm-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed xf86-input-wacom (1.2.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] installed wacomtablet (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] upgraded luajit (2.1.1720049189-1 -> 2.1.1723675123-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] upgraded nemo (6.2.6-1 -> 6.2.8-1)
[2024-08-18T14:49:34+0200] [ALPM] transaction completed
[2024-08-18T14:49:35+0200] [ALPM] running '20-systemd-sysusers.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:35+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-daemon-reload-system.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:36+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-daemon-reload-user.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:36+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-hwdb.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:37+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-tmpfiles.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:37+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-udev-reload.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:38+0200] [ALPM] running '30-systemd-update.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:38+0200] [ALPM] running '30-update-mime-database.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:38+0200] [ALPM] running '40-fontconfig-config.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM] running '90-mkinitcpio-install.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Building image from preset: /etc/mkinitcpio.d/linux.preset: 'default'
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Using default configuration file: '/etc/mkinitcpio.conf'
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> -k /boot/vmlinuz-linux -g /boot/initramfs-linux.img
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Starting build: '6.10.5-arch1-1'
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [base]
[2024-08-18T14:49:39+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [udev]
[2024-08-18T14:49:40+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [autodetect]
[2024-08-18T14:49:40+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [microcode]
[2024-08-18T14:49:40+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [modconf]
[2024-08-18T14:49:40+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [kms]
[2024-08-18T14:49:41+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keyboard]
[2024-08-18T14:49:41+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'xhci_pci'
[2024-08-18T14:49:41+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [keymap]
[2024-08-18T14:49:41+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [consolefont]
[2024-08-18T14:49:42+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: consolefont: no font found in configuration
[2024-08-18T14:49:42+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [block]
[2024-08-18T14:49:42+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [encrypt]
[2024-08-18T14:49:42+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> WARNING: Possibly missing firmware for module: 'qat_420xx'
[2024-08-18T14:49:43+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [filesystems]
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Running build hook: [fsck]
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Generating module dependencies
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Creating uncompressed initcpio image: '/boot/initramfs-linux.img'
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET]   -> Early uncompressed CPIO image generation successful
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ==> Initcpio image generation successful
[2024-08-18T14:49:44+0200] [ALPM] running '90-update-appstream-cache.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:48+0200] [ALPM-SCRIPTLET] ✔ Metadata cache was updated successfully.
[2024-08-18T14:49:48+0200] [ALPM] running 'dbus-reload.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:48+0200] [ALPM] running 'fontconfig.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:49+0200] [ALPM] running 'glib-compile-schemas.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:49+0200] [ALPM] running 'gtk-update-icon-cache.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:50+0200] [ALPM] running 'texinfo-install.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:51+0200] [ALPM] running 'update-desktop-database.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:49:51+0200] [ALPM] running 'update-vlc-plugin-cache.hook'...

Then I uninstalled it again by running:

sudo pacman -Rsn plasma

Here is the Pacman log stemming from that:

[2024-08-18T14:56:33+0200] [PACMAN] Running 'pacman -Rsn plasma'
[2024-08-18T14:56:34+0200] [ALPM] running 'texinfo-remove.hook'...
[2024-08-18T14:56:34+0200] [ALPM] transaction started
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed wacomtablet (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed xf86-input-wacom (1.2.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed sddm-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed sddm (0.21.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed print-manager (1:6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plymouth-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-workspace-wallpapers (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-welcome (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-vault (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-thunderbolt (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed bolt (0.9.8-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-systemmonitor (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-sdk (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-pa (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed pulseaudio-qt (1.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-nm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed networkmanager-qt (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed modemmanager-qt (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed modemmanager (1.22.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed ppp (2.5.0-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:35+0200] [ALPM] removed libqmi (1.34.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed libqrtr-glib (1.2.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed libmbim (1.30.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-firewall (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-disks (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed smartmontools (7.4-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-desktop (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed noto-fonts-emoji (1:2.042-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed baloo (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed powerdevil (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed ddcutil (2.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed i2c-tools (4.3-6)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed polkit-kde-agent (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-browser-integration (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed kfilemetadata (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed poppler-qt6 (24.08.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed ebook-tools (0.2.2-8)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed libzip (1.10.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed convertlit (1.8-12)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed oxygen-sounds (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed oxygen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed kwrited (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed kwallet-pam (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed socat (1.8.0.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed ksshaskpass (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed kscreen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed krdp (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:36+0200] [ALPM] removed qtkeychain-qt6 (0.14.3-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed freerdp2 (2.11.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed kmenuedit (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed kinfocenter (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed xorg-xdpyinfo (1.3.4-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed wayland-utils (1.2.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed vulkan-tools (1.3.269-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed mesa-utils (9.0.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed libdecor (0.2.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed dmidecode (3.6-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed clinfo (3.0.23.01.25-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed aha (0.5.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed systemsettings (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed kgamma (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed kdeplasma-addons (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-quick3d (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-quicktimeline (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:37+0200] [ALPM] removed kunitconversion (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-workspace (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed xorg-xwayland (24.1.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed xorg-xsetroot (1.1.3-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed xorg-xmessage (1.0.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libxaw (1.0.16-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-virtualkeyboard (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libqalculate (5.2.0.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed kio-extras (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed smbclient (4.20.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed ldb (2:2.9.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed tevent (1:0.16.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed cifs-utils (7.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed talloc (2.4.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libwbclient (4.20.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed kdsoap-ws-discovery-client (0.4.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed kdsoap-qt6 (2.2.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed kdnssd (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed phonon-qt6 (4.12.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed phonon-qt6-vlc (0.12.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed vlc (3.0.21-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libtar (1.2.20-7)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libmpeg2 (0.5.1-10)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libmpcdec (1:0.1+r475-6)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libmatroska (1.7.1-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libebml (1.4.5-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libdvbpsi (1:1.3.3-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libdca (0.0.7-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed ffmpeg4.4 (4.4.4-6)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libmfx (23.2.2-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed faad2 (2.11.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed aribb24 (1.0.3-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed a52dec (0.8.0-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libkexiv2 (24.05.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed kded (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed ktexteditor (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed editorconfig-core-c (0.12.9-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed ktextwidgets (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-speech (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed prison (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed qrencode (4.1.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:38+0200] [ALPM] removed libdmtx (0.7.7-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed knotifyconfig (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kholidays (1:6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma5support (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-integration (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed ttf-hack (3.003-7)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qqc2-desktop-style (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed sonnet (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed xdg-desktop-portal-kde (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kio-fuse (5.1.0-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qqc2-breeze-style (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed plasma-activities-stats (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed ocean-sound-theme (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed milou (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed krunner (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed ksystemstats (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed libksysguard (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kpipewire (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kwin (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed libqaccessibilityclient-qt6 (0.6.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kquickcharts (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-sensors (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kwayland (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kscreenlocker (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed libkscreen (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed layer-shell-qt (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kglobalacceld (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kde-gtk-config (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed xsettingsd (1.0.2-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kde-cli-tools (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kparts (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kdesu (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kpty (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed libutempter (1.2.1-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed kactivitymanagerd (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed flatpak-kcm (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed flatpak (1:1.15.10-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed xdg-dbus-proxy (0.1.5-2)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed ostree (2024.7-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed composefs (1.0.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed libmalcontent (0.12.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed xdg-desktop-portal (1.18.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed rtkit (0.13-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed geoclue (2.7.1-3)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed drkonqi (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed syntax-highlighting (6.5.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed python-sentry_sdk (2.13.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed python-pygdbmi (0.11.0.0-4)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed python-psutil (6.0.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed gdb (15.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed source-highlight (3.1.9-12)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed gdb-common (15.1-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed discover (6.1.4-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-webview (6.7.2-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qcoro-qt6 (0.10.0-1)
[2024-08-18T14:56:39+0200] [ALPM] removed qt6-websockets (6.7.2-1)
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The package noto-fonts was installed by Pacman as a dependency it seems (judging by the log). After uninstalling the initial package (plasma), I had to uninstall noto-fonts  manually, i.e. it didn't get removed with the other packages (see log). That makes me wonder if other packages also remained that I haven't noticed yet. Is this expected behavior and if yes, what's the proper way to "revert" the system back to the point it was before installing packages like that? Is there a different way other than using system snapshots? I was under the impression that Pacman would remove everything it installed if I run the same package name again with -Rsn.

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#2 2024-08-18 14:10:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

justasug wrote:

I have sometimes noticed that when I install a package (and its dependencies), upon removing the same package again, that certain packages don't get removed again by Pacman.
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I was under the impression that Pacman would remove everything it installed if I run the same package name again with -Rsn.

First thing to realize here is that you're not giving it a package name, you're giving it a group which is the same as giving it many package names.

Now for this specific instance, noto-fonts provides ttf-fonts. As long as something needs ttf-fonts, pacman won't automatically remove it.

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#3 2024-08-18 15:09:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

Scimmia wrote:

First thing to realize here is that you're not giving it a package name, you're giving it a group which is the same as giving it many package names.
Now for this specific instance, noto-fonts provides ttf-fonts. As long as something needs ttf-fonts, pacman won't automatically remove it.

I have just checked it out, trying to figure out which package required ttf-font. I guess it's sddm, which gets pulled in as a dependency for sddm-kcm inside the plasma group.
The thing is: I have already another package which provides ttf-font: it's ttf-dejavu. Shouldn't that be taken into consideration when installing/uninstalling packages? noto-fonts could be safely uninstalled because I already have ttf-dejavu. Is there an easy way to figure out which package pulled in noto-fonts without going through every package inside of the plasma group and its dependencies manually (hundreds of packages)?

I can imagine that it's kinda complicated for Pacman, but would this be considered a bug and warrant a bug report?

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#4 2024-08-18 15:32:11

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

justasug wrote:

The thing is: I have already another package which provides ttf-font: it's ttf-dejavu. Shouldn't that be taken into consideration when installing/uninstalling packages? noto-fonts could be safely uninstalled because I already have ttf-dejavu.

And how would pacman determine which one you want to uninstall, or even if you did want to uninstall one?

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#5 2024-08-18 15:48:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/any/noto-fonts/
It's specific dependency for plasma-integration, generic provision of ttf-font and NOT part of the plasma group.

pacman remembers that this was installed as dependency but not for what specificially.

When you remove the plasma group it doesn't remove noto-fonts directly and when discarding the unneeded dependencies it's not considered because it's (through it's generic provision) a necessary dependency of everything that depends on ttf-font. There's no reason to remove it, pacman doesn't know whether it was or is only installed to serve the direct or the generic dependency.

Let's say you remove something that depends on ttf-font, should that action remove all but (which) one ttf-font providers?

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#6 2024-08-18 17:50:06

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

Scimmia wrote:

And how would pacman determine which one you want to uninstall, or even if you did want to uninstall one?

seth wrote:

Let's say you remove something that depends on ttf-font, should that action remove all but (which) one ttf-font providers?

Perhaps the one which was explicitly installed by the user? I'm not sure, but just a thought and I can accept if it works that way.

Is there a recommended way to bring the system back to the original state before the update in regards to installed packages? Is utilizing the
Pacman log and removing every package mentioned in there the only (recommended) way?

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#7 2024-08-18 21:18:22

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

Perhaps the one which was explicitly installed by the user?

Who says there's one?

Is utilizing the Pacman log and removing every package mentioned in there the only … way?

Pretty much, yes - though this situation is somewhat of a corner case anyway.
Another thing you could do is to "pacman -Qq" list the installed packages, experimentally install stuff, list the installed packges again and use the diff to feed the remove instruction.

diff -c0 old.pkgs new.pkgs |& awk /'^+ /{print $2}'

should™ do (but I didn't test that!)

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#8 2024-08-19 09:49:36

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Re: [SOLVED] Pacman not removing all packages it installed

seth wrote:

Who says there's one?

I see that it's more complicated to handle all of the cases, but it sounds like something within the scope of a package manager.

seth wrote:

Another thing you could do is to "pacman -Qq" list the installed packages, experimentally install stuff, list the installed packges again and use the diff to feed the remove instruction.

Thanks, I will give it a try.

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