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#1 2024-09-03 14:58:11

cyq
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Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

Some like it, some don't. It's a matter of personal preference so I think the best thing is to vote.

https://gitlab.archlinux.org/archlinux/ … requests/2

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#2 2024-09-04 01:27:04

Trilby
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

Okay, I'll campaign for the opposition: I agree everyone with a gitlab account, go vote against this.  The default setting should be the simplest that works on all relevant systems - not one that happens to get the most votes among the types of people who want to vote on such things.

Or don't vote.  Because voting to decide technical issues is absurd from the start.


"UNIX is simple and coherent" - Dennis Ritchie; "GNU's Not Unix" - Richard Stallman

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#3 2024-09-04 02:04:25

dakota
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

I'm with Trilby. The default should be the simplest.

I'd vote, except I don't have a gitlab account and don't care enough to create one.

FWIW, I always use color. (I have an alias for that purpose; it's pretty trivial.)

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#4 2024-09-04 02:31:50

kgtuning
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

No color please. I like keeping it simple.

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#5 2024-09-04 06:38:20

seth
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

Trilby wrote:

voting to decide technical issues is absurd from the start

The reason to keep it where it is would be to not break the output format - if the color shows up unexpectedly in some script (because the context autodetection failed) you just broke that script.
Basically any time you want to change a default, you've to ask yourself "what is the benefit of the new default" and if the only answer is "I personally like it better": don't.

Don't worry, there's "developers" of some major OSS projects who don't know that either.

Full disclosure: I like color, too.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Color_ … in_console

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#6 2024-09-05 20:23:42

Trilby
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

I like color too.  So I configure it.  That's the problem with voting though: a disturbingly large portion of people would just vote for what suits them personally rather than voting on which option they believe objectively has the most merit.

Last edited by Trilby (2024-09-05 20:24:33)


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#7 2024-09-05 20:41:02

seth
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

Oh, sorry - I meant to quote you to stress the point, not as precursor for the subsequent comment.

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#8 2024-09-05 21:01:32

Trilby
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Re: Should `ip` output be coloured by default? Come vote.

I got that... I was commenting similarly.  Perhaps that's what they mean by being in violent agreement.


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