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#1 2024-09-24 14:56:36

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[SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

What is the font for the dots in the web version of PowerPoint? (no, LibreOffice Impress is not a substitute for me, at least in my workflow (Collaborative editing)
I can see its:
F0
A7
Can anyone help me? Cheers.

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#2 2024-09-24 15:09:08

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

The various Noto fonts should help with that, they are designed to have as broad a coverage as possible to eliminate the "tofu" of which you speak.


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#3 2024-09-24 15:29:42

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Head_on_a_Stick wrote:

The various Noto fonts should help with that, they are designed to have as broad a coverage as possible to eliminate the "tofu" of which you speak.

Hi, after installing the font (noto-fonts package) I still have the problem. Any ideas?
Thank you.

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#4 2024-09-24 15:31:31

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Try the nerd variants. PowerPoint sounds trendy enough to need those.


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#5 2024-09-24 15:45:09

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

u+F0A7 is in the private use area, the nerd fonts have a pointing down finger there.
Absolutely nothing should systematically use that glyph, it will look different with every font.

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#6 2024-09-24 17:59:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Is this web version of powerpoint somewhere we could see it?  It may define the fonts it expects in the css or other style tags.


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#7 2024-09-24 19:58:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

could you maybe share a screenshot of what you are asking about? "I can see F0 A7" is not quite clear to me.

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#8 2024-09-24 20:07:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

pango will replace unresolvable glyphs with tofus that have the UTF codepoint written inside.
They're however typically tiny, so while I know what the OP sees, I'm not so sure whether the OP does (it's easy to misread this)

@TheSilverFoxes, in the light of the last comments, open the web inspector on the glyph - it will tell you what fonts are supposed to be resolved in the computed CSS and on top of that, copy the glyph (select it and ctrl+c) and then run

printf "$(xsel -ob)" | iconv -futf8 -tutf16 | od -x | head -1 | cut -d" " -f3

and post the number you get.

Edit: you probably have iconv, od, head & cut but might need to install xsel (or any wayland equivalent - you could also past the character into the command)

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#9 2024-09-25 03:46:45

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Funny0facer wrote:

could you maybe share a screenshot of what you are asking about? "I can see F0 A7" is not quite clear to me.

https://imgur.com/a/9UvVKWn
Here is the image of the "tofu"
@seth I am unable to copy the glyph ( due to the way PowerPoint automatically insert it when I press Enter (?) )

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#10 2024-09-25 07:36:04

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

The web inspector should™ still allow you to look at it (including the printed "text")?
But that says F0A7 which only makes sense for web-fonts

Google spat out https://askubuntu.com/questions/983191/ … ord-online
It seems MSO relies on some local windows fonts being installed, woff should™ still work but the ubuntu page says "for chrome" which isn't how that works


https://www.freedesktop.org/software/fo … nts.tar.gz looks like it's also getting you the font, they're actually cab files you can https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/cabextract/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-ms-fonts will likely work, too.

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#11 2024-09-25 12:13:05

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

seth wrote:

The web inspector should™ still allow you to look at it (including the printed "text")?
But that says F0A7 which only makes sense for web-fonts

Google spat out https://askubuntu.com/questions/983191/ … ord-online
It seems MSO relies on some local windows fonts being installed, woff should™ still work but the ubuntu page says "for chrome" which isn't how that works


https://www.freedesktop.org/software/fo … nts.tar.gz looks like it's also getting you the font, they're actually cab files you can https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/cabextract/
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-ms-fonts will likely work, too.

ttf-ms-fonts doesn't seam to work for me
How can I install cab files?
Once again, thank you for your help.

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#12 2024-09-25 14:41:13

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

You just cabextract the *.exe files and install the fonts, but https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/ttf-ms-fonts shoud™ do exactly that for the https://www.freedesktop.org/software/fo … nts.tar.gz

fc-list | grep -i dings

If the ms fonts do not provide the glyphs or aren't what office 360 wants there, try the fonts from the ubuntu thread.

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#13 2024-09-26 12:06:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

For some reasons, it sill doesn't work.

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#14 2024-09-26 13:12:01

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Use the webinspector to figure what that thing is and what fonts the browser wants to use - posting "its does nots works lol" won't get this ahead.

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#15 2024-09-26 14:23:29

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

seth wrote:

Use the webinspector to figure what that thing is and what fonts the browser wants to use - posting "its does nots works lol" won't get this ahead.

text-indent: 0px;
  text-align: left;
  vertical-align: baseline;
  font-family: Wingdings, sans-serif;
  color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
  font-weight: normal;
  font-style: normal;
  font-size: 29.6px;
  line-height: 0.1;
  margin-left: -36px;
  margin-right: 19px;

EDIT: HTML
<span class="ListMarker" style="text-indent: 0px; text-align: left; vertical-align: baseline; font-family: Wingdings, sans-serif; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; font-size: 29.6px; line-height: 0.1; margin-left: -36px; margin-right: 19px;" aria-hidden="true"></span>

Is it this?
Also my bad about that half-assed reply, half of it just got cut out of some reason tongue

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#16 2024-09-26 14:34:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

font-family: Wingdings

fc-list | grep -i dings
fc-list :charset=f0a7

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#17 2024-09-26 14:41:29

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#18 2024-09-26 15:03:47

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Please don't post images of text, post the text.

So you have wingdings (and webdings) and both provide the glyhp, though.

fc-match Wingdings # the font name is a bit off, is that from the fdo archive/cabextract?

What browser are you btw. using and is it a flatpack or from the repos?

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#19 2024-09-26 15:17:01

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

seth wrote:

Please don't post images of text, post the text.
Oh alright, my bad about that.
So you have wingdings (and webdings) and both provide the glyhp, though.

fc-match Wingdings # the font name is a bit off, is that from the fdo archive/cabextract?

What browser are you btw. using and is it a flatpack or from the repos?

It's Firefox from the official repo

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#20 2024-09-26 15:42:27

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Get these fonts, https://github.com/dv-anomaly/ttf-wps-fonts/tree/master
Move the other ones away and check

FC_DEBUG=4 pango-view --font="Wingdings" -t "" | grep family:

If that works (should) restart firefox and check the behavior of MS PowerBore

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#21 2024-09-26 15:59:54

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

seth wrote:

Get these fonts, https://github.com/dv-anomaly/ttf-wps-fonts/tree/master
Move the other ones away and check

FC_DEBUG=4 pango-view --font="Wingdings" -t "" | grep family:

If that works (should) restart firefox and check the behavior of MS PowerBore

Thank you for the response, it worked!
Also thank you for your contribution, I cannot stand being a tech support provider for a week, let alone 12 years lol <3
Marking as Solved.

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#22 2024-09-26 17:00:26

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Re: [SOLVED] Very VERY dumb question about font

Calling a skilled and experience hacker "tech support"?  Them's fightin' words. tongue


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