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#1 2024-10-11 02:58:08

taji
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Registered: 2024-10-11
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Fans not working

I have this model: OMEN by HP Gaming Laptop 16-wd0xxx
I'm trying to get my fans to work (won't turn on at all) so I tried following the Lm_sensors guide , then went to the Fan speed control to use fancontrol. When running

sensors

I get this output:

coretemp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
Package id 0:  +46.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 0:        +39.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 4:        +40.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 8:        +37.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 12:       +37.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 20:       +43.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 21:       +43.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 22:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)
Core 23:       +44.0°C  (high = +100.0°C, crit = +100.0°C)

spd5118-i2c-13-52
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at efa0
temp1:        +46.8°C  (low  =  +0.0°C, high = +55.0°C)
                       (crit low =  +0.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

spd5118-i2c-13-50
Adapter: SMBus I801 adapter at efa0
temp1:        +45.5°C  (low  =  +0.0°C, high = +55.0°C)
                       (crit low =  +0.0°C, crit = +85.0°C)

BAT1-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
in0:          15.82 V  
power1:       58.17 W  

hp-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
fan1:           0 RPM
fan2:           0 RPM

ucsi_source_psy_USBC000:001-isa-0000
Adapter: ISA adapter
in0:           0.00 V  (min =  +0.00 V, max =  +0.00 V)
curr1:         0.00 A  (max =  +0.00 A)

nvme-pci-0200
Adapter: PCI adapter
Composite:    +53.9°C  (low  =  -0.1°C, high = +76.8°C)
                       (crit = +78.8°C)
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp3_min: I/O error
ERROR: Can't get value of subfeature temp3_max: I/O error
Sensor 2:     +66.8°C  (low  =  +0.0°C, high =  +0.0°C)

acpitz-acpi-0
Adapter: ACPI interface
temp1:        +27.8°C  
temp2:        +10.0°C  
Other sensors

I also tried running

acpi -t

which returned this:

Thermal 0: ok, 10.0 degrees C
Thermal 1: ok, 27.8 degrees C
nvidia-smi

returns this:

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 560.35.03              Driver Version: 560.35.03      CUDA Version: 12.6     |
|-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id          Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |           Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                                         |                        |               MIG M. |
|=========================================+========================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4050 ...    Off |   00000000:01:00.0  On |                  N/A |
| N/A   42C    P8              1W /   80W |     367MiB /   6141MiB |      5%      Default |
|                                         |                        |                  N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
                                                                                         
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                              |
|  GPU   GI   CI        PID   Type   Process name                              GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                               Usage      |
|=========================================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A       692      G   Hyprland                                      144MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A       752      G   Xwayland                                        2MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A       814      G   /usr/lib/firefox/firefox                      143MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A      1199      G   kitty                                          18MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Back to fans

After running

pwmconfig

I'm going to assume that I don't have PWM. Output:

# pwmconfig version 3.6.0+git
This program will search your sensors for pulse width modulation (pwm)
controls, and test each one to see if it controls a fan on
your motherboard. Note that many motherboards do not have pwm
circuitry installed, even if your sensor chip supports pwm.

We will attempt to briefly stop each fan using the pwm controls.
The program will attempt to restore each fan to full speed
after testing. However, it is ** very important ** that you
physically verify that the fans have been to full speed
after the program has completed.

/usr/bin/pwmconfig: There are no pwm-capable sensor modules installed
Conclusion

I don't know what I'm doing. Any help or guidance would be appreciated. I'm considering using Wine to run Omen Gaming Utility.

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#2 2024-10-11 06:33:16

lger0
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Registered: 2024-10-10
Posts: 8

Re: Fans not working

I feel like Wine+Omen Gaming Utility might not work because wine isn't the same as running directly on windows and we're dealing with hardware. (it's still worth a shot though if you don't have anything else).

In that case, I'd recommend booting a different OS from a stick just to see if it's an archlinux issue or something else.

When is the last time/setup you saw the fans working?

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#3 2024-10-11 08:30:21

V1del
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Registered: 2012-10-16
Posts: 23,307

Re: Fans not working

Also note that generally speaking direct fan control from the OS is in the vast majority of laptop implementations not intended and it will be configured in a UEFI/BIOS level - if you can adjust anything at all. Is this an actual issue, have you tried running something demanding, are you running into heating/throttling issues in that case? According to that sensors output your temps are currently fine and many modern systems will simply not run the fans if there's no need.

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#4 2024-10-11 23:04:00

taji
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Registered: 2024-10-11
Posts: 3

Re: Fans not working

lger0 wrote:

I feel like Wine+Omen Gaming Utility might not work because wine isn't the same as running directly on windows and we're dealing with hardware. (it's still worth a shot though if you don't have anything else).

In that case, I'd recommend booting a different OS from a stick just to see if it's an archlinux issue or something else.

When is the last time/setup you saw the fans working?

True. I have a dual-boot with Windows 11 / Arch, so I see them running whenever I'm on Windows.

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#5 2024-10-11 23:07:28

taji
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Registered: 2024-10-11
Posts: 3

Re: Fans not working

V1del wrote:

Also note that generally speaking direct fan control from the OS is in the vast majority of laptop implementations not intended and it will be configured in a UEFI/BIOS level - if you can adjust anything at all. Is this an actual issue, have you tried running something demanding, are you running into heating/throttling issues in that case? According to that sensors output your temps are currently fine and many modern systems will simply not run the fans if there's no need.

I'll check my BIOS to see if there's anything there.
I have a dual boot with Windows 11 / Arch, on which I use Windows 11 for gaming or other moderate tasks. The fans will be running anywhere from 3000-6500 RPM but when I switch to Arch there's no fans. Personally, the temperature levels seem a little low for CPU/GPU use, especially after switching.

Update

I checked my BIOS. It has a "Fan Always On" option. I'll probably just do that.

Last edited by taji (2024-10-12 02:56:43)

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