significant slow boot times from kernel 6.11/12

muffin82 · 2024-12-12 18:51:21

failed to coldplug... => this is also an error from the LTS kernel upowerd, so doesn't seem to be a problem

seth · 2024-12-12 19:05:37

Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Bluetooth daemon 5.79
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Starting SDP server
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support bap plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support bass plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support mcp plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support vcp plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: profiles/audio/micp.c:micp_init() D-Bus experimental not enabled
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support micp plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support ccp plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support csip plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: src/plugin.c:init_plugin() System does not support asha plugin
Dec 12 19:40:56 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Bluetooth management interface 1.23 initialized
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Battery Provider Manager created
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/ldac
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/aptx_hd
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx_hd
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/aptx
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/aac
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aac
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/opus_g
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/opus_g
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/sbc
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/sbc
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx_ll_1
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx_ll_0
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx_ll_duplex_1
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/aptx_ll_duplex_0
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/faststream
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/faststream_duplex
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/opus_05
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/opus_05
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSink/opus_05_duplex
Dec 12 19:41:16 mypc bluetoothd[659]: Endpoint registered: sender=:1.28 path=/MediaEndpoint/A2DPSource/opus_05_duplex

is still running?
bluez is probably be dragged in by bluedevil which should only be an optional ependency?

muffin82 · 2024-12-12 19:14:05

removed bluedevil, reboot, unfortunately still slow...

so it's not it

as mentioned before I removed everything connected to bluetooth from bluez, tools and also bluedevil and it was still slow...

also disabled BT in BIOS, but was still slow

so I think it's something else, but it's not in the logs and that's painful = or I don't see it there...

maybe that's the new reality to see splash screen for 20 seconds, before I get to desktop... but it doesn't happen with FEDORA live CD and it's Kernel 6.11

Last edited by muffin82 (2024-12-12 19:19:55)

topcat01 · 2024-12-12 20:20:33

Does this happen with the latest ISO?

muffin82 · 2024-12-12 20:27:17

haven't tried, can give it a shot

seth · 2024-12-13 09:14:22

removed bluedevil, reboot, unfortunately still slow...

Can we please see the journal for that?

The install iso doesns't have a GUI (I'm not even sure it comes w/ bluetoothd) and afaiu the console login wasn't affected by this itfp?

maybe that's the new reality to see splash screen for 20 seconds

Curb your pessimism

muffin82 · 2024-12-13 11:51:49

I just reinstalled and tried multiple distros, same problem

so it's a KERNEL ISSUE, nuked my configs, because of it "awesome" as I wanted to have it clean as possible

don't really like this side of linux to be honest, have a quite recent hardware and this is bad regression

Last edited by muffin82 (2024-12-13 11:55:16)

seth · 2024-12-13 15:33:33

We know it's kernel related since you compared

LTS and kernel until 6.10, load was under 1 second...

and notably if the LTS kernel still doesn't exhibit this.
The only real question is whether BT is actually the cause and whether in that case it's related to the userspace interface.

Instead of flailing around (wtf did you "nuke" you configs, a fresh user would have taken care of that…) it would be better to finally post a journal of a bluetoothd-free boot, covering the delay.

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Re: significant slow boot times from kernel 6.11/12

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