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#1 2007-01-12 23:40:10

Roberth
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Full X and Gnome?

Hello

I'm very new to Arch Linux, I'm used to Gentoo, and there's ONE things that bothers me, it's the meta packages, wich packages do I need to install, to get the same packages that are in the "x11" and "gnome" meta packages on Gentoo?


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#2 2007-01-13 00:07:08

mr.MikyMaus
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Roberth wrote:

...wich packages do I need to install, to get the same packages that are in the "x11" and "gnome" meta packages on Gentoo?

Maybe those which are in "x11" and "gnome" meta packages on Gentoo?;)

But if you are asking about meta packages in Arch, then afaik there is no such think like meta package. There are only package groups, which are not much used (imho). Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong in this one smile

-miky


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#3 2007-01-13 00:23:17

Roberth
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Well, you missunderstand me, "x11" and "gnome" is the metapackages for Gentoo yes, Arch have "xorg" and "gnome" but they only install as minimal packages as possible...

I'm asking for an pacman command that install full gnome and X.


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#4 2007-01-13 00:58:36

mr.MikyMaus
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Sorry for misunderstanding...

Roberth wrote:

...but they only install as minimal packages as possible...

This is exactly The Arch Way. Arch is KIS, so this is the best you can get from it. All "extra" packages has to be installed manually, unless they are part of some dependance. That's what makes it so cool :-) Pacman (or packager) is not trying to guess what you might want to have. You should know best ;-)

-m.


What happened to Arch's KISS? systemd sure is stupid but I must have missed the simple part ...

... and who is general Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?

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#5 2007-01-13 01:01:44

Roberth
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Yes, but i want full xorg and gnome, i have great font problems etc. because of this...


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#6 2007-01-13 01:03:52

mr.MikyMaus
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Roberth wrote:

Yes, but i want full xorg and gnome, i have great font problems etc. because of this...

Generally, there is no such thing like "full X" or "full GNOME". What you might expect from "full GNOME" can be "too many useless apps" for another Gnome user and "just a fraction" for another one... You see my point?

-m.


What happened to Arch's KISS? systemd sure is stupid but I must have missed the simple part ...

... and who is general Failure and why is he reading my harddisk?

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#7 2007-01-13 01:07:42

Snowman
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

To install xorg:
pacman -S xorg
You'll need to additionally install drivers for your video card. Install also the bitstream font (I think gnome need it):
pacman -S ttf-bitstream-vera

To install full gnome:
pacman -S gnome gnome-extra

If you have specific problems (like fonts), please describe them.

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#8 2007-01-13 01:09:55

Roberth
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Ok, ill try to swallow that camel wink if you know what i mean.

I shall take an look in the repository, and try to install the packages my self, but pacman downloads terrobly slow, you know of any more local reposiory for me? I'm living in norway, and how do i change them?

Snowman wrote:

To install xorg:
pacman -S xorg
You'll need to additionally install drivers for your video card. Install also the bitstream font (I think gnome need it):
pacman -S ttf-bitstream-vera

To install full gnome:
pacman -S gnome gnome-extra

If you have specific problems (like fonts), please describe them.

Thanks, I will.


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#9 2007-01-13 01:51:24

Snowman
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Reorder the mirrors in the current/extra files in /etc/pacman.d
Pacman use the first mirror. Put the one you want to use on top of the list. Additionnal mirrors are listed here: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Mirror

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#10 2007-01-13 03:17:26

Roberth
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

Ok, I've now installed Arch, and my fonts looks like this

31110.jpeg


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#11 2007-01-13 18:15:49

KiXeR
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Re: Full X and Gnome?

pacman -S ttf-dejavu ...much nicer fonts. 8)

/K


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