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#1 2025-01-26 05:03:56

Fullsteam
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plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

Hi

I'm having some problems with plasmashell
It appears to be having some issues with plasmoids

These are examples of two of the error messages from systemctl status --user plasma-plasmashell

 file:///usr/share/plasma/plasmoids/org.kde.plasma.mediacontroller/contents/ui/AlbumArtStackView.qml:153:13: QML Image: Cannot open: file:///tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.Fd9TDc 
 applications:org.kde.elisa.desktop: Progress value 269 is out of bounds! 

Also earlier plasmashell was complaining that some were the wrong metadata format
like clock and some others can't remember off the top of my head

and i'm probably missing something basic but i can't seem to find a way to add the tags section to places in dolphin on KDE plasma 6

Thanks for any help

Should say when i'm talking about tags i'm talking about the tags you get when you install the kde-applications-meta which i don't have installed

Video, Audio etc

Last edited by Fullsteam (2025-01-26 07:16:10)

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#2 2025-01-26 11:42:50

V1del
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Re: plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

Most of that is very normal debugging information that you shouldn't worry about too much if these don't lead to an actual, visible issue.

e.g. the first one is the mediacontroller/MPRIS plasma widget not being able to find "album art" for a stream you had open in chromium. Generally normal, not cause for concern.

As for the dolphin tags, that's most likely in the dolphin-plugins package. Generally dolphin has a few opt deps that you're potentially necessary so check the opt depends in

pacman -Qi dolphin

and generally most of that functionality relies on baloo being enabled, while baloo should get pulled in as a dependency you might still have it disabled, which you shouldn't if you want these things to work correctly.

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#3 2025-01-27 03:49:22

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Re: plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

Ah ok awesome on the errors. I was asking because I've had plasma shell crash on rarely would the best place to debug that be journalctl if it happens again?

Also if you're familiar with KDE if you install kde-applications-meta (so everything) there are some default tags for audio, video, text which list all audio, video or text files when you use them

That is the functionality i want but i'm not sure how i would do that without the main meta package?

FYI Baloo is running so i can use tags and when I did pacman -Qi this was the output

Maybe i have missed something

Name            : dolphin
Version         : 24.12.1-1
Description     : KDE File Manager
Architecture    : x86_64
URL             : https://apps.kde.org/dolphin/
Licenses        : LGPL-2.0-or-later
Groups          : kde-applications  kde-system
Provides        : None
Depends On      : baloo  baloo-widgets  gcc-libs  glibc  kbookmarks  kcmutils  kcodecs  kcolorscheme  kcompletion  kconfig  kconfigwidgets  kcoreaddons  kcrash  kdbusaddons  kfilemetadata  kguiaddons  ki18n  kiconthemes  kio  kio-extras  kjobwidgets
                  knewstuff  knotifications  kparts  kservice  ktextwidgets  kuserfeedback  kwidgetsaddons  kwindowsystem  kxmlgui  phonon-qt6  qt6-base  solid
Optional Deps   : ffmpegthumbs: video thumbnails [installed]
                  kde-cli-tools: for editing file type options [installed]
                  kdegraphics-thumbnailers: PDF and PS thumbnails [installed]
                  kdenetwork-filesharing: samba usershare properties menu [installed]
                  kio-admin: for managing files as administrator [installed]
                  konsole: terminal panel [installed]
                  purpose: share context menu [installed]
Required By     : dolphin-plugins
Optional For    : None
Conflicts With  : None
Replaces        : None
Installed Size  : 14.19 MiB
Packager        : Antonio Rojas <arojas@archlinux.org>
Build Date      : Fri 10 Jan 2025 07:35:45
Install Date    : Sun 12 Jan 2025 21:49:22
Install Reason  : Explicitly installed
Install Script  : No
Validated By    : Signature 

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#4 2025-01-27 10:26:57

V1del
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Re: plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

These aren't tags but "baloo search" shortcuts, which is why I was thinking that those should be in there already once baloo is running, other candidates here are kio and kio-extras . If you run dolphin in a terminal and punch "baloosearch:/audio" into the location bar, does it tell you which library it's missing.? I am familiar with kde, but I do have most of the group installed. FWIW what do you get from

balooctl6 status

did you potentially just hide the "search" applet in the sidebar?  you can right click that to show all (including hidden entries)

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#5 2025-01-27 21:33:20

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Re: plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

clarifying I cleared the baloo index and had it re index everything that and rebooted then All Tags, Media and Video showed up in the tags menu

And my bad didn't understand the baloosearch shortcut setup after I put baloosearch:/audio in as a location its working fine searching for all audio files

Weird that it doesn't create the all the tags by default if I had the main meta package I think it would but I only have some of them so apparently it doesn't

Also since you asked Kio and Kio-extras are both installed

and here is the output from balooctl6 status
Everything seems fine with it

Baloo File Indexer is running
Indexer state: Idle
Total files indexed: 563,290
Files waiting for content indexing: 0
Files failed to index: 0
Current size of index is 7.51 GiB


I hope I didn't come off and condescending in any way asking if you were familiar with KDE apologies if so


Edit

Is there a good source that explains tags in more detailed with tags because I've been struggling to find one i've been to the wiki on dolphin and through the help center

I'm trying to figure out how i create tags without assigning it to a file and the syntax for it

Last edited by Fullsteam (2025-01-27 21:47:12)

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#6 2025-01-28 11:17:42

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Re: plasmashell plasmoids issue and how to add tags section in dolphin

Potentially something corrupt in the baloo index initially?

What's your goal with the tags if not assigning them to files? That's their entire point and purpose. As for documentation, what ultimately happens that dolphin writes the tag into a xattr "xdg.user.tags" which gets parsed and indexed by baloo. https://www.reddit.com/r/kde/comments/z … are_button

if you're wondering about being able to automate/script this, potentially setting that xattr attribute, see also relevant docs in: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Extended_attributes

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