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#1 2025-02-08 03:38:25

8bitredstone
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[SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

I've been having issues with certain applications freezing when they are on my second monitor. This has been happening since I updated roughly 1 week ago (the update that had issues with glibc). The applications effected are xscreensaver, thorium web broswer, discord, mpv, etc. (although not steam oddly)

From what I can tell this is likely an Nvidia issue, as the effected monitor is plugged into my GPU and the unaffected is plugged into my motherboard (both using HDMI).

here's a video of the issue: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Hg9cZ7 … TXRsP/view

I still have this issue even if I downgrade my nvidia driver to older versions, I also tried downgrading glibc and still no improvement. So maybe it's a kernel issue, but I also still have this issue on linux-lts

here's my fastfetch for hardware
OS: Arch Linux x86_64
Kernel: Linux 6.13.1-arch1-1
Display (LG FHD): 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz in*
Display (LG FHD): 1920x1080 @ 60 Hz in]
DE: Xfce4 4.20
WM: Xfwm4 (X11)
CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-6400 (4) @ 3z
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650 [Discre]
GPU 2: Intel HD Graphics 530 @ 0.95 GH]
Memory: 2.79 GiB / 15.49 GiB (18%)

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#2 2025-02-08 15:54:00

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

OpenGL clients only?

Please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General and if you've not yet tried, what happens when you prime-run those clients?

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#3 2025-02-09 02:25:07

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

seth wrote:

OpenGL clients only?

Please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General and if you've not yet tried, what happens when you prime-run those clients?

using prime-run appears to make no real difference (besides making the recording worse, because that's also using the GPU): https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MDRh0n … sp=sharing

Here's the log file:
file download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1SdWElk … jinGp/view
Paste bin link: https://pastebin.com/v9Vymjw5

I also tried switching out sdl2-compact for sdl2(AUR), because I only recently switched to sdl2-compact. However, this did not change anything

also should note that I just recently had an additional issue where the GPU monitor froze completely after running a game on 1 monitor and a video on the second

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#4 2025-02-09 08:32:25

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

nvidia + modesetting, running on the IGP - the card order is swapped.

[     6.716] (==) modeset(0): VariableRefresh: disabled
[     6.716] (==) modeset(0): AsyncFlipSecondaries: disabled

Try to add "nvidia_drm.modeset=1" to the kernel parameters (has to be there, will block the simpledrm device and restore the natural order of cards) but that would only be the cause if it makes the client render in software.

Smells https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME# … ronization related - what's the status quo and what happens when you flip that?

ANd if that's not it: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Variab … figuration

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#5 2025-02-10 01:38:40

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

I have zero what fixed my problem, but I am no longer having it

Things I did:
- modprobe nvidia_drm modeset=0
- yay -S mkinitcpio-firmware
- added "nvidia_drm.modeset=1" to default grub config and regenerated with grub-mkconfig

Things I undid whilst trying to find what actually fixed the problem: everything listed above (yes I regenerated the grub config and init ramdisk after making the changes)
The xorg log also still says disabled for VariableRefresh and AsyncFlipSecondaries, so idk

The only thing I can think of is that I deleted my ~/.nvidia-settings-rc and then let nvidia-settings regenerate one

So I have zero idea what fixed the issue, but it is now fixed

Really is quite awesome though that literally every issue I have ever had with Arch Linux due to issues with NVIDIA. I quite literally will never buy NVIDIA again, AMD Linux users don't know how good they have it lol

Thanks for your help! big_smile

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#6 2025-02-10 07:35:17

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

modprobe nvidia_drm modeset=0

Undo that, it currently doesn't do anything but if you ever remove the "nvidia_drm.modeset=1" parameter and forget about that modprobe config, you'll hate your younger self.

Unless you have ridiculously old/rare hardware this is just bloat.

If you want to try, remove the kernel parameter again, allowing the simpledrm device to mess up the system - if the problem returns, you know what to blame.

Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

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#7 2025-02-15 08:27:22

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

seth wrote:

modprobe nvidia_drm modeset=0

Undo that, it currently doesn't do anything but if you ever remove the "nvidia_drm.modeset=1" parameter and forget about that modprobe config, you'll hate your younger self.

Unless you have ridiculously old/rare hardware this is just bloat.

If you want to try, remove the kernel parameter again, allowing the simpledrm device to mess up the system - if the problem returns, you know what to blame.

Please always remember to mark resolved threads by editing your initial posts subject - so others will know that there's no task left, but maybe a solution to find.
Thanks.

So from further testing I can now confirm what fixed the issue was adding "nvidia-drm.modeset=0" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and then remaking the config using grub-mkconfig -o /boot/grub/grub.cfg

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#8 2025-02-15 08:32:41

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Re: [SOLVED] Weird Issues with certain applications since recent update

If that indeed changed anything you're now running the system in software emulation.
Xorg log?

glxinfo -B
prime-run glxinfo -B

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