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#1 2025-03-27 19:19:05

Sami117
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One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Just recently installed Arch on my personal machine and trying to use it as my full time system.

Im running into this issue where my main screen all of a sudden freezes but my secondary monitor is fine and the videos on that screen keeps playing.

The programs running on the main monitor are still running and while the screen is frozen on one frame, in order to do anything i turn the main monitor off, this fixes the screen but what happens is that any program i am actively running all crash.

The crash usually happens when i am playing a game on the main screen and have discord or a twitch stream open on the secondary.

My setup is like this:
Main Monitor= 2560x1440 running at 165 hz connected using a display cable
Secondary Monitor= 1920x1080 running at 75 hz connected using hdmi cable.
GPU= Zotac RTX 4080
CPU= Intel Core i7-12700F
Kernael Version: 6.13.7-arch1-1 (64-bit)
KDE Plasma version: 6.3.3

If there is anything else you guys need to know then just tell me.

Cause i really dont know where to look to try and fix this issue, as googling the issue brought up nothing so far.

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#2 2025-03-27 20:19:42

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Plasma on X11 or plasma on wayland?
If this happens on X11, please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General


Smells related to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME# … ronization

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#3 2025-03-27 22:56:26

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

doubt that
OP uses a F-skew which doesn't have its iGPU enabled - so although the chip may has a somewhat working iGPU its disabled - hence OPs system only has the dGPU

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#4 2025-03-28 01:12:57

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

seth wrote:

Plasma on X11 or plasma on wayland?
If this happens on X11, please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General


Smells related to https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/PRIME# … ronization

I am on wayland and havent booted the system on x11 so far.

and like cryptearth mentioned, my cpu does not have an iGPU so its purely reliant on my eGPU for creating any image.

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#5 2025-03-28 06:50:03

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Ok, but that makes the output-depending crashing rather obscure.
Do you have a https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Core_d … _core_dump ?

And please test the behavior on X11, its log might help to understand what's going on (iff the behavior extends there)

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#6 2025-03-29 21:03:44

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Yeah this is strange, seems like on X11 im not facing the issue really.

Been doing what i normally do all day and nothing happened so far.

so best guess it is being caused by wayland somehow.

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#7 2025-03-29 22:41:04

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

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#8 2025-03-30 18:03:00

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

So i implemented what you sent me, still hasnt fixed the issue.

Is there any chance it has to do with packages for the Nvidia drivers?

i installed these packages: nvidia , nvidia-lts, nvidia-settings, nvidia-utils.

Is there anything i need more for wayland?

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#9 2025-03-30 20:05:31

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Implemented what specifically how?
Please post your complete system journal for the boot:

sudo journalctl -b | curl -F 'file=@-' 0x0.st

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#10 2025-04-05 06:58:33

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

I have run the command and the results are in the link.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1kjau7r … sp=sharing

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#11 2025-04-05 12:50:17

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

There's no need to copy around the internet, you could have just posted the 0x0.st link

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Apr 05 07:01:17 SSMLin-DTPC2023 sshd-session[1106]: Failed password for root from 218.92.0.230 port 40494 ssh2

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/OpenSSH#Protection - read this, absolutely mandatory!

Apr 05 09:54:27 SSMLin-DTPC2023 kwin_wayland[2092]: kwin_scene_opengl: 0x501: GL_INVALID_VALUE error generated. <levels>, <width> and <height> must be 1 or greater.

Sounds like dpms, the monitor is sent to sleep (for inactivity?) unregisters and kwin wants to operate on a null-sized output.
Try to disable the kscreen service hmm

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#12 2025-04-05 17:55:12

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Okay i didnt know that.
For the ssh i went ahead and disabled that till i learn more about hardening.

To the main issue. I went ahead and turned off kscreen service but it hasnt resolved it.
went back to wayland and tried it and it happened again.

so most likely not that.

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#13 2025-04-05 20:33:31

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

Can you trigger this by switching the monitor off for 5s or so (w/ the power button on its bezel)?

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#14 2025-04-06 17:43:53

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

The issue isnt the monitor turning off, the monitor is staying on, its just on that screen it freezes despite things on that screen is still active. when i turn the screen off it then crashes the programs.

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#15 2025-04-06 19:27:42

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Re: One of my screen freezes then crashes all my programs.

The issue isnt the monitor turning off …  when i turn the screen off it then crashes the programs.

Sounds like quite an issue to me.

seth wrote:

Sounds like dpms, the monitor is sent to sleep (for inactivity?) unregisters and kwin wants to operate on a null-sized output.

So, when you turn off the monitor you can trigger the crashes even out of an unproblematic situation?

DPMS on wayland is probably facilitated by powerdevil, can you disable the monitor being turned off on idleness there?

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