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#1 2025-05-07 22:49:05

Dyzzal
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[Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

As of version 570, the nvidia drivers have caused nearly all my games to run at around 7 fps when they ran perfectly fine before. I've tried nvidia, nvidia-dkms, and nvidia-open-dkms, but they all give the same results. I use Hyprland and I've gone through the nvidia section on its wiki multiple times.

System Specs:
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X
RTX 3070
32GB RAM
Kernel: 6.14.4.arch1-2

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#2 2025-05-08 05:58:28

seth
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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

I've gone through the nvidia section on its wiki multiple times.

Let's see…

glxinfo -B
lsmod | grep -E '(nv|nou)'

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#3 2025-05-08 21:45:25

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

glxinfo:

name of display: :0
display: :0  screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
    Dedicated video memory: 8192 MB
    Total available memory: 8192 MB
    Currently available dedicated video memory: 3136 MB
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 570.144
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 570.144
OpenGL shading language version string: 4.60 NVIDIA
OpenGL context flags: (none)
OpenGL profile mask: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.2 NVIDIA 570.144
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.20

lsmod:

nvidia_drm            139264  104
drm_ttm_helper         16384  2 nvidia_drm
nvidia_uvm           3932160  12
nvidia_modeset       2158592  28 nvidia_drm
video                  81920  1 nvidia_modeset
nvidia              13115392  687 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset

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#4 2025-05-08 22:40:45

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

What does `pacman -Qs nvidia` show?

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#5 2025-05-09 01:29:41

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Scimmia wrote:

What does `pacman -Qs nvidia` show?

pacman -Qs nvidia:

local/cuda 12.8.1-2
    NVIDIA's GPU programming toolkit
local/cuda-tools 12.8.1-2
    NVIDIA's GPU programming toolkit (extra tools: nvvp, nsight, compute-sanitizer)
local/egl-gbm 1.1.2.1-1
    The GBM EGL external platform library
local/egl-wayland 4:1.1.19-1
    EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/egl-x11 1.0.1-1
    NVIDIA XLib and XCB EGL Platform Library
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 570.144-1
    NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libva-nvidia-driver 0.0.13-1
    VA-API implementation that uses NVDEC as a backend
local/libvdpau 1.5-3
    Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 570.144-1
    NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia-open-dkms 570.144-3
    NVIDIA open kernel modules - module sources
local/nvidia-settings 570.144-1
    Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 570.144-3
    NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/opencl-nvidia 570.144-3
    OpenCL implemention for NVIDIA
local/python-nvidia-ml-py 12.570.86-1
    Python Bindings for the NVIDIA Management Library

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#6 2025-05-09 06:49:39

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

nvidia drivers are at use, down to xwayland, you can (because of "game") check "glxinfo32 -B" but I don't expect any surpises there.
What about "not hyprland", do games run with expected speed on weston or sway? What on X11/openbox?
How do eglgears and glxgears behave?

Finally

nearly all my games to run at around 7 fps

Is all "your games" "steam" and do you use steam from the repos or some flatschpak?

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#7 2025-05-09 22:10:50

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

What about "not hyprland", do games run with expected speed on weston or sway? What on X11/openbox?

Tested plasma wayland and x11 and they both run the same

How do eglgears and glxgears behave?

Both run perfectly fine

Is all "your games" "steam" and do you use steam from the repos or some flatschpak?

I use steam from flatpak but it's not only steam games. GOG, Epic, and Itch games all have issues (unless they're visual novels or other games that require barely any graphical power)

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#8 2025-05-10 07:03:50

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/NVIDIA … P_firmware
What does nvidia-smi report while running a game (notably the power state)

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#9 2025-05-10 07:16:04

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

I tried this a few days ago and it went to P0 as soon as the game was open but the went back to P8
Here's the result while having Squirrel Stapler open

Sat May 10 00:11:30 2025
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 570.144                Driver Version: 570.144        CUDA Version: 12.8     |
|-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id          Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |           Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                                         |                        |               MIG M. |
|=========================================+========================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070        Off |   00000000:29:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   36C    P8             17W /  220W |    2509MiB /   8192MiB |     13%      Default |
|                                         |                        |                  N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                              |
|  GPU   GI   CI              PID   Type   Process name                        GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                               Usage      |
|=========================================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A            1339      G   Hyprland                                332MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            1413      G   Xwayland                                  7MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            1452      G   /usr/bin/xwaylandvideobridge              3MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            2873      G   /opt/zen-browser-bin/zen-bin            523MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            8663      G   ./firefox.real                          176MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          127137      G   /proc/self/exe                          998MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          144179      G   tauonmb                                 141MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          287417      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           15MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          303450      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           15MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          420541      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           47MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          436581      G   /usr/bin/kitty                            9MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          446548      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           36MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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#10 2025-05-10 07:24:56

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Here's the result while having Squirrel Stapler open

That looks like it was implemented on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech#id_Tech_2 w/o hw acceleration?

How does xonotic perform?

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#11 2025-05-10 07:33:04

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

That looks like it was implemented on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Id_Tech#id_Tech_2 w/o hw acceleration?

Nope, unity game from a few years ago. Still might not have been the best game to test

How does xonotic perform?

Same power level but it ran really well

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| NVIDIA-SMI 570.144                Driver Version: 570.144        CUDA Version: 12.8     |
|-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+
| GPU  Name                 Persistence-M | Bus-Id          Disp.A | Volatile Uncorr. ECC |
| Fan  Temp   Perf          Pwr:Usage/Cap |           Memory-Usage | GPU-Util  Compute M. |
|                                         |                        |               MIG M. |
|=========================================+========================+======================|
|   0  NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070        Off |   00000000:29:00.0  On |                  N/A |
|  0%   37C    P8             18W /  220W |    2724MiB /   8192MiB |     24%      Default |
|                                         |                        |                  N/A |
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------+----------------------+

+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Processes:                                                                              |
|  GPU   GI   CI              PID   Type   Process name                        GPU Memory |
|        ID   ID                                                               Usage      |
|=========================================================================================|
|    0   N/A  N/A            1339      G   Hyprland                                314MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            1413      G   Xwayland                                  7MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            1452      G   /usr/bin/xwaylandvideobridge              3MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            2873      G   /opt/zen-browser-bin/zen-bin            541MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A            8663      G   ./firefox.real                          168MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          127137      G   /proc/self/exe                          994MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          144179      G   tauonmb                                 141MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          287417      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           21MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          303450      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           24MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          420541      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           23MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          446548      G   /usr/bin/kitty                           36MiB |
|    0   N/A  N/A          458532      G   /usr/bin/xonotic-sdl                    274MiB |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------+

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#12 2025-05-10 07:36:59

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Do the problematic games all somehow involve proton/wine?

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#13 2025-05-10 08:01:09

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Don't think so, just tried the linux versions of Getting Over It and Darkwood, both still ran at around 7-10 fps

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#14 2025-05-10 14:50:24

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Hmm…
https://aur.archlinux.org/packages?O=0&K=unigine

vkcube
vulkaninfo --summary

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#15 2025-05-11 10:35:59

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

I use steam from flatpak but it's not only steam games. GOG, Epic, and Itch games all have issues (unless they're visual novels or other games that require barely any graphical power)

Are your flatpak nvidia drivers installed/updated?

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#16 2025-05-12 22:12:56

Dyzzal
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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

LemonYerg wrote:

Are your flatpak nvidia drivers installed/updated?

Welp, I feel silly. I keep forgetting to update my flatpak things. A full update fixed it, thanks so much!

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#17 2025-05-12 22:14:41

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

Dyzzal wrote:

I use steam from flatpak but it's not only steam games. GOG, Epic, and Itch games all have issues (unless they're visual novels or other games that require barely any graphical power)

?

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#18 2025-05-12 22:17:30

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Re: [Solved] Proprietary NVidia drivers make games run really slow

seth wrote:
Dyzzal wrote:

I use steam from flatpak but it's not only steam games. GOG, Epic, and Itch games all have issues (unless they're visual novels or other games that require barely any graphical power)

?

Didn't word this well. What I mean was that it wasn't just steam games that were affected, but games that require very very little graphical power aren't having obvious low framerates

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