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G3ro

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[SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

Hello,

I don't exactly remember since when this is the case, but I just noticed it, as I was searching for a specific menu (for general filtering of Emails) which I can't seem to find anywhere.

To avoid misunderstandings, as I might not name this correctly, I am talking about the bar right on top that usually seems to state:
File - Edit - View- Message - Tools - Configuration...

I use KDE Plasma. All up to date.
Claws-Mail version is: 4.3.1-3
Operating System: Arch Linux
KDE Plasma Version: 6.3.5
KDE Frameworks Version: 6.14.0
Qt Version: 6.9.1
Kernel Version: 6.12.33-1-lts (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: Wayland
GTK Design: Silvery-GTK (but it seems other Designs also don't show the menubar, though they should)

The titlebar is visible. With F10 I can see the first menu entry I guess (It shows stuff like: new mailbox, import mbox file, Close program etc.).

In other applications I either see the menubar, in Firefox for example, or a "replacement" icon, with that I can open the main menu (e.g. in Marknote etc.).

Can someone tell me, three things:
1. Is this normal? I found different screenshots online which show very different results.
2. How can I bring the menubar back?
3. (optional, if 2. is not possible) How can I access the menus without the menubar?

I of course already searched for a solution online, but couldn't find one.
Pressing Ctrl+M or CTRL+F12 etc. does not work.

Last edited by G3ro (2025-06-14 21:04:38)

seth

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

Do you use a global menubar?
Have you tried to move ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc aside?
Does it look the same on X11/openbox (covering both, global menubar context and display server)?

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G3ro

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

Do you use a global menubar?
Have you tried to move ~/.claws-mail/clawsrc aside?
Does it look the same on X11/openbox (covering both, global menubar context and display server)?

Thx, it seems it is really the global menubar in conjunction with KDE Wayland thats the problem here.
While other programs like Firefox handle this correctly by showing the menu, claws-mail and other apps don't seem to do that under Wayland.

Using:
GDK_BACKEND=x11 claws-mail
brings the "open-menu" icon back, that I see in other Applications, which I guess is the global menu (?).

I don't really understand who is "at fault", but would you recommend to file a bug report with claws-mail and/or KDE?

G3ro

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

Whoops...made a mistake here, it seems the global menubar is something different.
I probably have a tool-button? These terms are very confusing to me.

seth

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

The global menubar is the MacOS approach where you've a menubar in the top panel (or somewhere else outside the window) - it would have be weird to be tied to wayland since it's implemented via dbus.

If claws-mail doesn't show certain elements as native wayland client, that's either a bug in claws mail (if they run X11 specific code) or in gtk.
Do you get errors/warning when running claws-mail from an interactive shell?

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G3ro

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

@seth: I completely forgot to try that, it really shows something:
(claws-mail:3815): Gdk-CRITICAL **: 14:55:22.527: gdk_monitor_get_workarea: assertion 'GDK_IS_MONITOR (monitor)' failed

seth

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Re: [SOLVED] Claws-Mail no menubar

I assume you don't get that on X11?
claws-mail uses that to calculate the DPI, which is not going to work on wayland - maybe you end up w/ 0-arithmetics and the menubar is acutally there, just very VERY tiny…
https://git.claws-mail.org/?p=claws.git … =HEAD#l738
Have you tried a different icon theme (notably one that's NOT using svg)?

For reference, your upstream bug:
https://www.claws-mail.org/bugzilla/sho … gi?id=4871

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