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#1 2007-01-22 16:51:43

brazzmonkey
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update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

i haven't used my desktop computer for a while, and today it caught several updates (amongst them, kde, nvidia and so on...).
next time i reboot, everything goes fine until (i suppose) kdm/X is launched : i get a blank screen, floppy drive stays lit, i cannot switch to another console, whatsoever. it looks like my computer freezes at the end of boot process. i cannot see any error output nor interact to read some logs.

any advice to help me investigate where all this comes from is highly appreciated...

greetz


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#2 2007-01-22 18:32:48

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

Be sure to read the front page news if it's been awhile between updates. One of them might help.

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#3 2007-01-22 18:39:41

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

As you seem to auto start X and X seems to cause your system to freeze, I suggest to boot into your system without auto starting X. (I am somehow impressed by myself being able to use my incredibly amazing abilities to count one and one together ^^) How to do this depends on your way you realize the auto start.

Either per booting into a different inittab (?) by changing your grub command line.

Or just chroot into your system with a live cd. Then I'd take a look wether everything works as expected and may have a look at the log files.


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#4 2007-01-26 09:40:20

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

actually i recall i already had this kind of issue. it's nvidia related : http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=26184
problem is, it happens no matter which driver/installation procedure i try...


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#5 2007-01-26 10:19:03

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

I'm having the same problem since I updated to kernel 2.6.19 and the new nvidia drivers! I really think the problem is only related to the new nvidia drivers.
I'm happy that I'm not the only one, means it is actually a nvidia problem that few seem to get :? the sad part is I'm having this issue since late december and I still have no solution. I've reported a few days ago this bug, maybe someone will figure out what it is but if you figure it out first, please let me know.

PS- the thread I opened about this issue: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?t=28485

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#6 2007-01-26 10:25:54

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

glad to see i'm not alone as well. i haven't tried to use the old beta drivers yet, i'll try in the next 24 hours and will let you know.


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#7 2007-01-26 12:04:21

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

ok, switching back to former 9629 beta driver solved my issue. you may want to give it a try, Grimm.


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#8 2007-01-26 12:52:15

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

where can I get that? thanks

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#9 2007-01-26 13:16:48

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

I've uninstalled nvidia and nvidia-utils packages and installed the 9629 driver but it didnt work sad

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#10 2007-01-26 13:25:02

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]


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#11 2007-01-26 13:28:09

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

whoops, i've been a little slow on that one...
sorry for you, mate... do you still have the same "blank screen" issue ?


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#12 2007-01-26 14:02:32

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

yup, same issue. thanks anyway

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#13 2007-01-26 14:44:20

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

sorry i cannot help you more. one last attempt, though : if you don't know what to do this week-end, and feel patient enough, browse this webpage http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_archive.html
and try these drivers.
only 9626 and 9629 work with my config. hopefully you'll find the ones that fit yours.

good luck again


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#14 2007-01-26 14:45:45

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

oh, and you might want to check if there's a bios update available for your video card...


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#15 2007-01-26 16:18:58

Grimn
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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

Thanks. I can't find the bios section though :?

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#16 2007-01-26 22:08:44

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

actually your bios may be generic (i.e. nvidia) or manufacturer specific.
http://www.mvktech.net/component/option … der/cat,4/
google is your friend.
be very careful if you decide to update your bios, this is a very sensible task which might fry your video card if it goes wrong. make sure you're going to flash your card with the proper bios.


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#17 2007-01-26 23:22:50

Grimn
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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

Thanks!
Unfortunely I don't know the brand (my brother sold me the card but didn't give any box or anything) and I'm don't trsut my skills to update the bios so I better not do anything at all.
I've tried a couple of nvidia drivers but only those in the 9xxx series install, the 8xxx says it can't build the modules (probably some update arch made that the installer doesn't know about?).
Anyway I'll wait for a while to see if someone figures this out or else I'll just install another distro since I can't get Arch to work anymore sad
I really appreciated your help though, thanks a lot big_smile

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#18 2007-01-31 19:47:43

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Re: update went wrong ! need guidance (nvidia-related) [SOLVED]

Bump, still wondering if anyone else has/had the same problem? I still have no fruther feedback from the bug report.

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