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I have an intel B580 gpu and I experience some weird problems in some apps, like `nautilus` or the default terminal app.
An example here:
https://imgur.com/a/5cbtv5x
The issue is solved if I revert to `vulkan-intel-1:25.1.7-1`
The problem is not always present and I don't even know how to debug, maybe there are some conflicting packages on my machine
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That looks more like a font issue then a vulkan issue, you'll have to describe what is wrong with it more clearly .
vulkan-intel is a part of mesa , did you only downgrade vulkan-intel and how did you downgrade it ?
Are you using X or wayland ?
Which display manager, window manager, dfesktop environment, compositor ?
Please post the output of lspci -k
Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.
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That looks more like a font issue then a vulkan issue, you'll have to describe what is wrong with it more clearly .
vulkan-intel is a part of mesa , did you only downgrade vulkan-intel and how did you downgrade it ?
Are you using X or wayland ?
Which display manager, window manager, dfesktop environment, compositor ?Please post the output of lspci -k
I am using Wayland and Gnome.
for the compositor ChatGPT give me this cmd
➜ ~ ps -e | grep -E "picom|compton|mutter|kwin|weston|wayfire"
2166 ? 00:00:00 picom <defunct>
2759 ? 00:00:00 mutter-x11-fram
To downgrade I use
pacman -U /var/cache/pacman/pkg/vulkan-intel-1:25.1.7-1-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst
It's very weird problem and I don't know the relation between so many graphics drivers that I should have, mesa, vulkan, OpenGL, intel oneapi....sorry.
Here is the screenshot with the output of `lpci -k` in the default terminal (kgx) https://imgur.com/a/Xu8lGEa
But I have another terminal installed (ghostty) and this command raise no problem.
Output:
➜ ~ lspci -k
00:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:10.0 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Device 7ada (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:10.5 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Device 7aaf (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:14.0 USB controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH USB 3.2 Gen 2x2 XHCI Controller (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: xhci_hcd
00:14.2 RAM memory: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH Shared SRAM (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:15.0 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH Serial IO I2C Controller #0 (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
00:15.1 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH Serial IO I2C Controller #1 (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: intel-lpss
Kernel modules: intel_lpss_pci
00:16.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH HECI Controller #1 (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: mei_me
Kernel modules: mei_me
00:16.3 Serial controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S Keyboard and Text (KT) Redirection (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: serial
00:17.0 SATA controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SATA Controller [AHCI Mode] (rev 11)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 7270
Kernel driver in use: ahci
00:1d.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH PCI Express Root Port #13 (rev 11)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation Device 7a8a (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S HD Audio Controller (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard AudioDevice
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_avs, snd_sof_pci_intel_tgl
00:1f.4 SMBus: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SMBus Controller (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: i801_smbus
Kernel modules: i2c_i801
00:1f.5 Serial bus controller: Intel Corporation Alder Lake-S PCH SPI Controller (rev 11)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: intel-spi
Kernel modules: spi_intel_pci
00:1f.6 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation Ethernet Connection (17) I219-LM (rev 11)
DeviceName: Onboard ETHERNET Controller
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: e1000e
Kernel modules: e1000e
01:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Intel Corporation SSD DC P4101/Pro 7600p/760p/E 6100p Series (rev 03)
Subsystem: Intel Corporation SSD Pro 7600p/760p/E 6100p Series [NVM Express]
Kernel driver in use: nvme
Kernel modules: nvme
16:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
16:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
16:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
16:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
16:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352a (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
17:00.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device e2ff (rev 01)
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
18:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device e2f0
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
18:02.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device e2f1
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
19:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Battlemage G21 [Arc B580]
Subsystem: Device 172f:4215
Kernel driver in use: xe
Kernel modules: xe
1a:00.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Device e2f7
Subsystem: Device 172f:4215
Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel
4d:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
4d:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
4d:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
4d:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
4d:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352a (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
84:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
84:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
84:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
84:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
84:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352a (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
84:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352c (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
84:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352d (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
86:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Kingston Technology Company, Inc. NV2 NVMe SSD [SM2267XT] (DRAM-less) (rev 03)
Subsystem: Kingston Technology Company, Inc. NV2 NVMe SSD [SM2267XT] (DRAM-less)
Kernel driver in use: nvme
Kernel modules: nvme
87:00.0 Non-Volatile memory controller: Micron Technology Inc 3400 NVMe SSD [Hendrix]
Subsystem: Micron Technology Inc Device 0100
Kernel driver in use: nvme
Kernel modules: nvme
bb:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
bb:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
bb:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
bb:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
bb:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352a (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
bb:03.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352b (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
bb:05.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352c (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
bb:07.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Device 352d (rev 04)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
f2:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Memory Map/VT-d (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
f2:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake Mesh 2 PCIe (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
f2:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake RAS (rev 20)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
f2:00.4 Root Complex Event Collector: Intel Corporation Device 0b23
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: pcieport
f2:01.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 0b25
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: idxd
Kernel modules: idxd
f2:03.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake MSM
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000
f2:03.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake PMON MSM
Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 0000
Kernel driver in use: intel_vsec
Kernel modules: intel_vsec
fe:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3250
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3251
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: isst_if_pci
Kernel modules: isst_if_mmio
fe:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3252
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:00.3 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Ice Lake IEH
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:00.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3255
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:05.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3245
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:05.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3246
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:05.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3247
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:06.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3245
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:06.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3246
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:06.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3247
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:07.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3245
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:07.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3246
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:07.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3247
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:0c.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Device 324a
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:0d.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Device 324a
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:0e.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Device 324a
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:0f.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Device 324a
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:1a.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Ice Lake DDRIO Registers
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
fe:1c.0 Performance counters: Intel Corporation Ice Lake DDRIO Registers
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:00.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:01.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:01.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:01.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:01.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324c
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0a.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0b.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0b.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0b.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:0b.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 324d
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1d.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake CHA Registers
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1d.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Ice Lake CHA Registers
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.0 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3258 (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.1 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 3259 (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Kernel driver in use: isst_if_mbox_pci
Kernel modules: isst_if_mbox_pci
ff:1e.2 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325a (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.3 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325b (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.4 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325c (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.5 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325d (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.6 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325e (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
ff:1e.7 System peripheral: Intel Corporation Device 325f (rev 08)
Subsystem: Lenovo Device 1055
Last edited by filiplaurentiu (2025-10-03 15:09:50)
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I might be wrong but it seems that all GTK based apps have problems. I experience issues only in these apps, like Gnome settings, Gnome weather app, the default terminal.
Never experience this problem with Firefox, Discord, Telegram..
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Please use [code][/code] tags. Edit your post in this regard.
That's actually common glyph rendering issue of HW accelerated clients (garbled glyph cache) - if you "export GSK_RENDERER=gl", do you still have this (despite the system fully updated)?
for the compositor ChatGPT give me this cmd
What and also wtf wrt the output…
loginctl session-status
and also please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General
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Please use [code][/code] tags. Edit your post in this regard.
That's actually common glyph rendering issue of HW accelerated clients (garbled glyph cache) - if you "export GSK_RENDERER=gl", do you still have this (despite the system fully updated)?for the compositor ChatGPT give me this cmd
What and also wtf wrt the output…
loginctl session-status
and also please post your Xorg log, https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xorg#General
I put "export GSK_RENDERER=gl" into my .zshrc file and then log out, then log it again and the problem is the same.
➜ ~ loginctl session-status
7 - filip (1000)
Since: Fri 2025-10-03 18:13:55 EEST; 1min 22s ago
State: active
Leader: 51402 (gdm-session-wor)
Seat: seat0; vc2
TTY: tty2
Remote: no
Service: gdm-password
Type: wayland
Class: user
Idle: no
Unit: session-7.scope
├─51402 "gdm-session-worker [pam/gdm-password]"
├─51456 /usr/lib/gdm-wayland-session /usr/bin/gnome-session
└─51480 /usr/lib/gnome-session-init-worker gnome
Oct 03 18:13:55 filip-thinkstation systemd[1]: Started Session 7 of User filip.
Oct 03 18:13:55 filip-thinkstation gnome-session-i[51480]: Starting GNOME session target: gnome-session-wayland@gnome.target
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I have no log file for Xorg, neither `~/.local/share/xorg/Xorg.0.log`, or `/var/log/Xorg.0.log`
maybe a few warnings from the Gnome weather app from journalctl help
Oct 03 18:23:32 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: The GObject property Adw.ViewSwitcherTitle.stack is deprecated.
0 MainWindow() ["resource:///org/gnome/Weather/js/app/window.js":74:59]
1 createWindow() ["resource:///org/gnome/Weather/js/app/application.js":179:24]
2 vfunc_activate() ["resource:///org/gnome/Weather/js/app/application.js":209:26]
3 anonymous() ["resource:///org/gnome/Weather/js/app/main.js":38:30]
4 setTimeout/source<() ["resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/esm/_timers.js":72:9]
5 run() ["resource:///org/gnome/gjs/modules/script/mainloop.js":19:22]
6 <TOP LEVEL> ["resource:///org/gnome/Weather/js/app/main.js":45:18]
Oct 03 18:23:32 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: MESA-INTEL: warning: ../mesa-25.2.4/src/intel/vulkan/anv_formats.c:981: FINISHME: support more multi-p>
Oct 03 18:23:32 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: MESA-INTEL: warning: ../mesa-25.2.4/src/intel/vulkan/anv_formats.c:949: FINISHME: support YUV colorspa>
Oct 03 18:23:33 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: JS LOG: Timeout during model load, perhaps the network is not available?
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Oct 03 18:26:11 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: Trying to measure GtkButton 0x55a86c8e6960 for width of 0, but it needs at least 68
Oct 03 18:26:11 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: gtk_widget_size_allocate(): attempt to allocate GtkButton button 0x55a86c8e6960 with width -28 and hei>
Oct 03 18:26:11 filip-thinkstation org.gnome.Weather[55219]: Trying to measure GtkImage 0x55a86c8e77c0 for width of 0, but it needs at least 40
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Yeah, despite
2166 ? 00:00:00 picom <defunct>
2759 ? 00:00:00 mutter-x11-fram
you're not running an X11 session (as proven by the session status - takeaway: don't ask some artificial idiocy for this stuff )
I put "export GSK_RENDERER=gl" into my .zshrc file and then log out, then log it again and the problem is the same.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Environment_variables - the zshrc will be parsed by zsh and even if zsh is your login shell that does not mean that gnome sees anything of this when you're starting it
You can
GSK_RENDERER=gl gtk4-demo
to apply it to that process and /etc/profile.d/* is typically parsed by everything. In doubt put it into /etc/environment (only "GSK_RENDERER=gl", no "export")
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Yeah, despite
2166 ? 00:00:00 picom <defunct>
2759 ? 00:00:00 mutter-x11-framyou're not running an X11 session (as proven by the session status - takeaway: don't ask some artificial idiocy for this stuff
)
I put "export GSK_RENDERER=gl" into my .zshrc file and then log out, then log it again and the problem is the same.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Environment_variables - the zshrc will be parsed by zsh and even if zsh is your login shell that does not mean that gnome sees anything of this when you're starting it
You canGSK_RENDERER=gl gtk4-demo
to apply it to that process and /etc/profile.d/* is typically parsed by everything. In doubt put it into /etc/environment (only "GSK_RENDERER=gl", no "export")
First of all, thanks for help and for the links, it's good to learn along the way.
I added the line
GSK_RENDERER=gl gtk4-demo
to the /etc/environment and then restart but unfortunately nothing change, same issues.
Tt might be just a problem with the latest vulkan drivers that might be fixed in the future so until then I should stick with what works, the older version ?
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No, you'd just add "GSK_RENDERER=gl" there, then check "printenv" to see whether it got applied.
Do you also have issues w/ vkcube and the latest driver?
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No, you'd just add "GSK_RENDERER=gl" there, then check "printenv" to see whether it got applied.
Do you also have issues w/ vkcube and the latest driver?
So, I just put "GSK_RENDERER=gl" in the "/etc/environment", restart, and now everything seems to work. Last time I tried to put "GSK_RENDERER=gl gtk4-demo" and it didn't worked.
Thank you very much for your help and for your time !
Now I am trying to understand what is the actual problem and if this is a temporar fix or I should forget about it and live with it.
From what I see, gl is the old renderer, https://blogs.gnome.org/gtk/2024/01/28/ … s-for-gtk/ probably more stable than the new one.
Last edited by filiplaurentiu (2025-10-06 14:25:33)
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The point was to get that exported to GDM/mutter (what you've achieved \o/) and yes, though technically that's now what used to be ngl back in the day.
Can you run vkcube or "GSK_RENDERER=vulkan gtk4-demo" on the new intel-vulkan version?
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