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#1 2007-02-12 03:37:37

crashbox
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Registered: 2006-09-29
Posts: 26

ati driver issue

i have just recently switched from windows to arch, i currently using a ati x1800gto video card, amd64 4800+ x2, and an asus wifi deluxe board, so far everything is working just my video card performance is not acceptable, in windows running WoW i would avg 60fps, with the fglrx drivers im only getting an avg 29 fps in WoW. If it helps im using wine to run wow because i dont see a point in using cedega to run WoW when it gets the same fps and wine is free. Here is part of my xorg.conf in relation to my x1800:

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
    Driver      "fglrx"
    Option "Capabilities" "0x00000800"
    Option "UseFastTLS" "off"
    Option "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"
EndSection

those options were needed to keep wow from crashing after playing it for 3seconds not sure what they do but they did fix part of the problem. Also before anyone makes any smart replies like "dont play wow" or "does this only do that in wow" or "check your wine setup"  i have already got everything setup like it should according to a wow wine setup forum, and its not just wow i also get crappy video lag when playing stepmania which is complied for linux. I have asked everywhere and noone can help me with this, everyone says it should be just fine but its not. PLEASE help


Shuttle XPC running an Intel C2Duo e6600 @2.4ghz, 2gigs of crucial ddr2 800, ATI radeon HD3870 x2

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#2 2007-02-12 04:14:38

sincity
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Registered: 2005-12-15
Posts: 63

Re: ati driver issue

Can you post the rest of your xorg.conf?

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#3 2007-02-12 04:46:07

crashbox
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Registered: 2006-09-29
Posts: 26

Re: ati driver issue

# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg
# Auto-generated by Archie mkxcfg

Section "ServerLayout"

# PS/2 Mouse not detected
# Serial Mouse not detected
    Identifier     "Xorg Configured"
    Screen      0  "aticonfig-Screen[0]" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "USB Mouse" "CorePointer"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# Additional fonts: Locale, Gimp, TTF...
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi"
#    FontPath     "/usr/share/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi"
# True type and type1 fonts are also handled via xftlib, see /etc/X11/XftConfig!
    RgbPath      "/usr/share/X11/rgb"
    ModulePath   "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/PEX"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/cyrillic"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/ttf/decoratives"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/openoffice"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-bitstream-vera"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/latex-ttf-fonts"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/CID"
    FontPath     "/usr/share/fonts/defoma/TrueType"
EndSection

Section "Module"
    Load  "ddc"  # ddc probing of monitor
    Load  "dbe"
    Load  "drm"
    Load  "dri"
    Load  "extmod"
    Load  "glx"
    Load  "bitmap" # bitmap-fonts
    Load  "type1"
    Load  "freetype"
    Load  "record"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
    Option        "AllowMouseOpenFail" "true"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "Keyboard0"
    Driver      "keyboard"
    Option        "CoreKeyboard"
    Option        "XkbRules" "xorg"
    Option        "XkbModel" "pc105"
    Option        "XkbLayout" ""
    Option        "XkbVariant" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier  "USB Mouse"
    Driver      "mouse"
    Option        "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
    Option        "SendCoreEvents" "true"
    Option        "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
    Option        "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
    Option        "Buttons" "5"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
    Identifier   "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
    Option        "VendorName" "ATI Proprietary Driver"
    Option        "ModelName" "Generic Autodetecting Monitor"
    Option        "DPMS" "true"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]"
    Driver      "fglrx"
    Option "Capabilities" "0x00000800"
    Option "UseFastTLS" "off"
    Option "KernelModuleParm" "locked-userpages=0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "aticonfig-Screen[0]"
    Device     "aticonfig-Device[0]"
    Monitor    "aticonfig-Monitor[0]"
    DefaultDepth     24
    SubSection "Display"
        Viewport   0 0
        Depth     24
    EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "DRI"
    Mode         0666
EndSection

there is my entire xorg.conf if there is anything else you need or any suggestions i will be more than happy to try


Shuttle XPC running an Intel C2Duo e6600 @2.4ghz, 2gigs of crucial ddr2 800, ATI radeon HD3870 x2

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#4 2007-02-12 08:44:35

chaosgeisterchen
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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria
Registered: 2006-11-20
Posts: 550

Re: ati driver issue

Probably there isn't anything wrong apart from the ATI driver itself. fglrx is well-known for it's poor performance, therefore it would be possible to have the performance of your graphics card being reduced by around 60%.


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#5 2007-02-12 10:30:57

Zoranthus
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From: muc
Registered: 2006-11-22
Posts: 166

Re: ati driver issue

Do you use opengl? If not, you should, runs way smoother here (just add -opengl after Wow.exe in the starting command line)

And id you apply the disabled extensions fix?
If not, here's a short quote:

Open a terminal window, (konsole/terminal/x terminal etc..) and type regedit. This will start the wine server
and the wine equivalent of the windows registry editor will be displayed. If your familiar with using the registry
editor under windows then this is pretty much the same.

Find HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\

Highlight the wine folder in the left hand pane by clicking left on it. The icon should change to an open folder

Click right on the wine folder and select [NEW] then [KEY]

Replace the text "New Key #1" with OpenGL ( If you can't change this text, expand the left hand pane of the
regedit window horizontally using the vertical divider).

Click right in the right hand pane and select [NEW] then [String Value]

Replace "New Value #1" with "DisabledExtensions"
(Notice it's case sensitive)

Then double click anywhere on the line, a dialog box will open.
In the value field type "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object" (without the quotes).

from here: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=6482


this fix increases my (and everyone else's for that matter big_smile ) FPS bigtime, also have a look at the option to add something to the "GL_ARB_vertex_buffer_object"-line to reduce turnaround-slowdowns.

*edit*
Also added to the Wiki page.

Last edited by Zoranthus (2007-02-12 11:54:57)

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#6 2007-02-12 19:44:18

kansei
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From: New England
Registered: 2007-02-12
Posts: 22

Re: ati driver issue

chaosgeisterchen wrote:

Probably there isn't anything wrong apart from the ATI driver itself. fglrx is well-known for it's poor performance, therefore it would be possible to have the performance of your graphics card being reduced by around 60%.

reduced by 60%? ow! So would I probably be better off with a 128MB Nvidia Quadro4 (4x agp I believe) than my Radeon 9800 Pro 256MB 8x AGP? I just want to get DRI working with kernel 2.6.20-2, without DRI it's killing me.

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#7 2007-02-12 22:40:22

billy
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From: Slovenia
Registered: 2006-09-13
Posts: 164

Re: ati driver issue

i don't know if it is reduced by 60%. 3d games that are written for linux and windows have about same fps on both OS's on my system with ati x1400 ... or even higher on linux (it's maybe just a feeling tongue). maybe fsaa and anisotropic is not so fast in linux but i don't use it cause i rather have a higher resoulution in game than nicer textures and edges. i even run games over wine almost with the same setting as in windows.

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#8 2007-02-13 04:13:34

kansei
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From: New England
Registered: 2007-02-12
Posts: 22

Re: ati driver issue

I'm thinking the ol Quadro4 128MB (the card looks physically identical to an old Geforce4 Ti4600 I have in another computer still) would be better than my Radeon 9800pro without DRI. I can't even render the mythtv interface in opengl.

Actually on second thought, I think I'll use the open source ATI drivers because I don't need gaming performance, I don't really ever have time for videogames (waaay too busy with school full time and work part time).

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#9 2007-02-13 05:12:09

crashbox
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Registered: 2006-09-29
Posts: 26

Re: ati driver issue

lol well the -opengl= awful, i get what looks like 10fps at the login screen, as for the regedit yes i am very use to using this due to my mom and grandma getting their pc's loaded with spyware. I did add the keys in and that fixed the problem, now i got something else thats not right. when i click on something to target it i get this awful .5 second video pause... i just wish ati would do something right for once with their drivers, they make superior gpu's and are alot cooler running than nvidia cards but they always shoot them selves in the foot with these crappy catalyst and fglrx drivers... /sigh well if anyone knows how to correct this problem i could really use the help....until then ill be looking all over the wine forums for a fix for this


Shuttle XPC running an Intel C2Duo e6600 @2.4ghz, 2gigs of crucial ddr2 800, ATI radeon HD3870 x2

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#10 2007-02-13 05:14:11

crashbox
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Registered: 2006-09-29
Posts: 26

Re: ati driver issue

OH and thanks everyone for the help!


Shuttle XPC running an Intel C2Duo e6600 @2.4ghz, 2gigs of crucial ddr2 800, ATI radeon HD3870 x2

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