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lo7777799

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Registered: 2023-07-25

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Linux-Steam-App vs Lutris-Steam-App vs flatpak-steam-app your opinion

Good Afternoon all,

what is your opinion about steam-clients? which is better?

1. Linux-Steam-App (installed with - Pacman -S steam)
or
2. Lutris-Steam-App(installed with Lutris - Windows-steam-app in wine)
or
3. Lutris-Steam-App(flatpak)

which of those 3 is the best in your opinion?

i think, the linux-steam-app has more fps and more compatibility.... but the linux-steam-app can not use wine. the linux-steam-app can only use proton.

the Lutris-Steam-App can use wine, but it has less fps and less compability ...

i have never tested the 3rd one, the flatpak steam app...

what is the best way to install steam games in your opinion?

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Whoracle

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Registered: 2010-11-02

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Re: Linux-Steam-App vs Lutris-Steam-App vs flatpak-steam-app your opinion

1 and 2 can coexist - install 1, and if you find a game that doesn't work with 1, install 2 and play the game there.

No need for 3.

Also:

the Lutris-Steam-App can use wine, but it has less fps and less compability ...

This pretty much answers the choice between 1 and 2. It's less performant and less compatible. Why even chose that? A game that won't run with Proton more likely than not won't run with pure wine, and neither version (nor the flatpak version) will get you the kernel anti-cheat games, if that's your hope.

Im my experience it's rather that I install a game via Lutris (or Heroic) because I don't have it in steam, and end up using Proton anyways to get it to run.

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cryptearth

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Registered: 2024-02-03

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Re: Linux-Steam-App vs Lutris-Steam-App vs flatpak-steam-app your opinion

@OP
please stop trolling ... you got several things wrong - which led to this nonesense topic

to clear you up a lot:

first: there are no "APPs" - we talk about applications, actual programs - that's nowhere near be even able to compare what we call an "app" on our phones these days
if you think in terms of "apps" you're already completely wrong here - and wrong with arch and linux in general - please go back to windows
if you want to stay with linux you have to learn the proper stuff and terms and how things actually work
so there is no "linux steam app" or "lutris steam app" or what not - there's steam, that's native code running native on the bare os - and there's flatpak and snap which is some shoosh landmined broken by concept try of containerization and sandboxing - just use what you get from the official repos - and stay away from this "devs are to lazy for proper publishing" nonesense

so by the above i will strike 3 completely out right ... if you think in any terms of flatpak - please, just wipe linux and go back to windows

between 1 and 2:
the main difference is:
1 is native compiled for linux
2 is just the windows version running via wine

then there'S this

but the linux-steam-app can not use wine. the linux-steam-app can only use proton

that's just outright WRONG - where did you get this from?
first of all: proton IS wine - it's a FORK - or in other terms: a fork is a somewhat of a sub-version-copy based on the original but with modifications - so you can'T say "i use either wine or proton" - when you say "i use proton" you implicitly say "i use wine - but just a modified version"
second: you really show you're a gui-clicky-funny windows kid - there's nothin prevent you to use vanilla wine via steam - in fact: steam is merely a launcher with a bit of DRM sprinkled around - and it doesn'T care if you use vanilla wine or valves fork proton or maybe even something else - all steam cares about on linux: is the game a native? then just run it native - if not: use whatever compatibility layer the user set - that's why it's called a LAYER - it's an API - an interface - something that just SPECIFIES how steam will interact with - wine (and proton as fork for that matter) is the actual interface implementation - and as such its replaceable

the point you even started that topic with these kind of questions shows you not just struggle to keep upright while slipping down a slope - for you it's a 90° right angle dead drop straight - and you're already 5cm over the edge
if you feel the need to run windows-steam in wine via some launcher like lutris - then you not just doin it wrong - you ARE wrong on linux - go back to windows where you seem to belong and stop trolling this forum of nonesense

lo7777799

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Registered: 2023-07-25

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Re: Linux-Steam-App vs Lutris-Steam-App vs flatpak-steam-app your opinion

but the problem is ...

do all games, that i installed under steam-wine-app, also run in steam-linux-app-proton?

and reverse?

and : "is proton open source?"

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V1del

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Re: Linux-Steam-App vs Lutris-Steam-App vs flatpak-steam-app your opinion

do all games, that i installed under steam-wine-app, also run in steam-linux-app-proton?
and reverse?

In general yes, bugs and/or incompats can happen with different wine/proton versions but that is something that can always happen. In a general sense you can assume most things to work the same or similar between the two. If your main concern is games, chances a proton build will work better are there since it's very much geared towards making sure games run.

and : "is proton open source?"

Yes, it's a fork of wine to make and test changes faster than normal wine would accept them (with the goal of making things more compatible from that stand point, so that stuff that is on Steam can run properly) https://github.com/ValveSoftware/Proton

As for the original question, there's very little reason to use anything else other than the native steam release which includes proton. Flatpaks have a couple of gotchas that can either break steam for a while (incompatible flatpak platforms) or workaround bugs because of said platform... IMO the only reason you should really even consider it is when there's a big bug in the steam client, and opting for flatpak might help to workaround that (at the cost of massive amounts of duplicated disk space because you will have a bunch of libs multiple times that can be entirely unnecessary

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