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#51 2026-03-23 11:14:19

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

Roken wrote:

I was in a particularly sketchy pub last night, and Arch Linux was in. Everyone that tried to fight it lost. Hard as nails.

I am glad I am not the only one who thought this :-)


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#52 2026-03-23 15:52:21

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

I’ve been using Arch for about 5-6 months now, and I think the "hard" part is mostly just a misunderstanding. It's not necessarily difficult; it just requires you to be intentional about your system.

I’m a student running a Lenovo Ideapad 320 (i3-6006U) with only 4GB of RAM. On other distributions, my system was constantly swapping and lagging just trying to keep the desktop environment alive. Moving to Arch was a total game-changer for me.
By building exactly what I needed with i3wm and moving my entire workflow into the terminal, my idle RAM usage dropped from 1.6GB to around 500MB. It essentially saved my hardware.

Is it hard? The setup takes some patience and reading, but it’s much "easier" to use a system that actually works efficiently on low-end gear than to fight with a pre-configured OS that bloats your RAM. For me, the learning curve was worth it for the performance alone.

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#53 2026-03-30 20:53:20

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

Moving away from Windows 11 (*vomit* excuse my French), I tried many distros and for some reason I liked Arch but it looked very time consuming and intimidating to be honest. A few times I tried to install it "quickly" just to check it out in a VMware but yeah, failed and panicked and ran away from it. Then I went Fedora, nice and cool, was so happy but the performance seemed off, I can't explain it but something felt off with it. So went distro shopping again and found Manjaro. It was HUGELY faster than Fedora, at least on my system, I have no idea why but it was. I realized Arch is nice but Manjaro made is basically easy to use Arch.

Then came their drama, which I didn't even know about, Grok told me in middle of some random conversation, so I went to their forums and read the drama on fork 2.0 yada yada. I'm like jeez, I chose one distro and this is the mess it has. I registered there on their forums and posted a completely normal conversation something about guys chill out, this is business distro, let's calm down, solve issues and move on, business doesn't want to have drama, it's keeping family fed and pays rent so the last thing you want is to rely on a "drama" OS. Long story short.... they delisted my post, and I'm like WTF? I found it very immature and frankly, insulting. At my age, I don't have time to waste on childish crap like that.

Second thought, moving away from Windows, I've had enough insults to my intellgence coming from Windows, I realized, naah, if you want to move away from Windows to Linux, better to do it RIGHT. Using a distro based on another distro is really not ideal. I mean, there IS absolutely pain involved moving away from Windows, but my God, the pain of looking at Windows 11 dwarfs any kind of pain coming from Linux.

First I thought using "archinstaller" but again, I thought naah, better do it right, cut off the middleman as much as possible.

I sit with Arch ISO + Grok (any A.I. will do actually).... it took me 3 days only. THREE DAYS is really NOTHING. Granted, it was painful af, but hey, no more middlemen, drama and no more Windows!

Arch is amazing, it is simply very very clean nice and up to date.

To OP, yes, it's hard but really not that hard. I mean, it is 100% worth putting time to learn how to install it, then make a few notes and steps so you can remember for the future.

Ps. Sorry for replying to old thread but I saw recent post and also with the sh*t show that's Windows 11, I'm guessing many are like me, silently suffering, vomiting in a corner and want to get out of Windows 11, and I hope this reply finds them. Get Arch and become forever free from Windows. How many days and nights and weeks and months haven't you put on that stupid OS? Windows 11 was the final insult, I just couldn't take it anymore. By the way, Steam works on it just fine!

Don't be afraid of Arch. It's NOT hard. It just takes a few days of your time but you need to concentrate and go forward methodically. That's all.

Do it!

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#54 2026-04-02 12:43:13

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

noesoespanol wrote:

I sit with Arch ISO + Grok (any A.I. will do actually).... it took me 3 days only. THREE DAYS is really NOTHING. Granted, it was painful af, but hey, no more middlemen, drama and no more Windows!

If you'd used the installation guide, it wouldn't have taken 3 entire days. Auto-complete systems tend to waste more time than they save.


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#55 2026-05-06 23:27:50

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

hot take:
I wouldn’t call Arch Linux “hard.” It’s actually pretty straightforward once you understand how it works. The main difference is that Arch doesn’t hide things behind layers of abstraction. What you see is what you’re working with, which makes the system feel more direct compared to other distros that automate everything.
For example, instead of having networking or a desktop environment preconfigured, you choose exactly what to install and how to set it up. That might take a bit more time at first, but it also means you understand what’s running on your system. When something breaks, you’re not guessing—you know where to look and usually have more than one clear way to fix it.
A lot of people who say Arch is hard just don’t want to read documentation or expect everything to be done for them. The install process can look intimidating, but it’s logical if you follow the guide. Once you get past that initial setup, Arch often ends up feeling simpler, not more complicated.

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#56 2026-05-07 03:58:29

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

one friendly advise, also in more general: use search function if they're available
as you seem to have just registered for this blog-style post (which is discouraged) let me hand you a ticket to our already ongoing party about this topic: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=302941

personal i agree with you: arch isn't hard IF you follow the guide closely - for me the very first time i missed the section on pacstrap that you have to bring along an editor and networking tools - so i ended up on a base system without anything to do
today i know my way out of it: use echo and pipe a simple config into systemd-networkd config and use that to get online and download an editor and more

if you want a challenge give LinuxFromScratch a try - my experience with Arch and Gentoo helped a lot - but the only thing i really learned from it: todays easy of use of linux is based on powerful package managers
yes, you still can go
./configure
make
make install
but do this about 200 times a week without any strategy of version or dependency management? not how people want to use computers today

a bit off-topic: i often watch retro youtubers - and boy ... THAT stuff is hard: configure isa cards with physical jumpers and order of placement that must match boot config exactly to even get you to a prompt - nah, i'm out - at least give my auto-pnp with pci and standard atx form factor - but dealing with anything older like ibm at or xt with a 386?
compared to that age any modern linux distro is about as easy as follow its install instructions and give in into its environment and eco system - then they're all pretty much equal

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#57 2026-05-07 08:15:43

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

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Disliking systemd intensely, but not satisfied with alternatives so focusing on taming systemd.

clean chroot building not flexible enough ?
Try clean chroot manager by graysky

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#58 Yesterday 10:59:35

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

its easier than OpenBSD big_smile
Arch aint hard if you have used Linux for a year or two.

just test/modify your installation until it breaks, then new install, repeat ...
when you get system that you like quit breaking it and use it.

i did that and i have now system i like. Arch is awesome and i havent found better distro.


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#59 Yesterday 11:18:01

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

It's just as hard as Windows, the only problem is that when I have a problem with Windows and cant figure out how to do something or how to fix something then I can just ask my neighbour or talk to some I.T/CS student who attends a nearby college.

With Linux is a different thing all together. Your only hope is the internet.

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#60 Yesterday 11:37:10

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

ReDress wrote:

It's just as hard as Windows, the only problem is that when I have a problem with Windows and cant figure out how to do something or how to fix something then I can just ask my neighbour or talk to some I.T/CS student who attends a nearby college.

With Linux is a different thing all together. Your only hope is the internet.

I agree BUT... we must remember that we have the likes of Grok and ChatGPT (free plans) etc., I got help from free tier of Grok to get Arch going withint 2 hours. The times are different now. Honestly, with Windows, it was also a lot of internet searching. Granted, Windows is a little bit more "visual" so often you can find the issue by clicking around like mad-man *lol* but IMHO with LLMs these days, it's no longer hard. Almost nothing is actually hard now. big_smile

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#61 Yesterday 11:38:48

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

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...Arch is awesome and i havent found better distro.

So true. I know people make fun of "I run Arch btw." but I definitely understand it now. It's so good, you want to share it with others. SOMEHOW. big_smile

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#62 Yesterday 11:50:57

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

I agree, but I am mostly talking in the context of someone who has NOT used a PC before.

The moment your PC breaks, especially certain problems I have come across using Linux, then you don't have access to ChatGPT or Grok because you can't access the internet ^-^

Effectively you have a dependency chain and probably have to ask someone else.

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#63 Yesterday 12:33:30

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

Right, that's true. Although, someone who has not used a PC before, do they really need one? Hahaha... joking. But yes, I'm definitely dependent on my phone accessing internet in case of weird issues but same goes with Windows too but yes, there won't be any neighbors who can help out.

Hopefully, this will start to change. I was on Windows all life (yes yes, shamefully) until Windows 11 pushed me over the edge, I simply just couldn't take anymore of Microsoft's insulting ways towards their users, how they build things and etc. etc., so after trying out a few distros, ended up on Fedora, then I felt it's weird, I tried Manjaro and it was so nice and so I thought might as well sit on Arch "the original gangster"! hehehe

I think a lot of people will be going to Steam OS though, so I guess that IS in someways a win for Arch. big_smile

Bottom line is, Arch is hard but also, Arch is not hard. For normal PC users that know their ways around Windows, I would recommend, don't be afraid, take the plunge into Arch, most definitely there won't be any regrets. (just stay way from AUR hahaha *joking*)

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#64 Yesterday 12:40:00

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

noesoespanol wrote:

Bottom line is, Arch is hard but also, Arch is not hard. For normal PC users that know their ways around Windows, I would recommend, don't be afraid, take the plunge into Arch, most definitely there won't be any regrets. (just stay way from AUR hahaha *joking*)

Well, hell only break lose when you assume Arch Linux is easy. Same as with anything else, like that day when I assumed PHP was easy ;-)

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#65 Yesterday 14:55:11

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

ReDress wrote:
noesoespanol wrote:

Bottom line is, Arch is hard but also, Arch is not hard. For normal PC users that know their ways around Windows, I would recommend, don't be afraid, take the plunge into Arch, most definitely there won't be any regrets. (just stay way from AUR hahaha *joking*)

Well, hell only break lose when you assume Arch Linux is easy. Same as with anything else, like that day when I assumed PHP was easy ;-)

Hahaha... yes. big_smile

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#66 Yesterday 15:51:25

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Re: Is Arch Linux hard?

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