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#1 2007-01-25 11:45:04

ramjet
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Metisse, i want!

New mandriva is out with its new WM Metisse http://www.mandriva.com/en/projects/metisse/
it looks insane, im downloading now, anyone here tried it?

how long (if ever) before we can expect it in the reporitories?

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#2 2007-01-25 12:00:12

Stalwart
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Re: Metisse, i want!

I've been watching videos. Like beryl better. Metisse is too much 3D :shock:


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#3 2007-01-25 12:43:08

manmower
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Re: Metisse, i want!

It has some interesting features compared to Compiz/Beryl. On the other hand it has its own share of useless eye candy. I'd definitely give it a shot if available though.

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#4 2007-01-25 12:56:32

tomk
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Re: Metisse, i want!

ramjet wrote:

how long (if ever) before we can expect it in the reporitories?

Impossible to say. It's likely that an interested user (you, maybe? smile ) will package it first, and put it in the AUR. From there, depending on the level of interest, it could move to community, or even to unstable/extra.

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#5 2007-01-25 13:00:38

tomk
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Available under the GPL Licence and in exclusivity for Mandriva Linux

If it's GPL, how can it be exclusive to Mandriva? :?

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#6 2007-01-25 13:09:27

stjepan
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Re: Metisse, i want!

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Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:47:45)

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#7 2007-01-25 13:09:50

arooaroo
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Re: Metisse, i want!

tomk wrote:

Available under the GPL Licence and in exclusivity for Mandriva Linux

If it's GPL, how can it be exclusive to Mandriva? :?

It's a bit ambiguous to say the least. However, my interpretation was more along the lines that Mandriva have been exclusively developing (or providing resources/money) to this project, that is also released under the GPL.

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#8 2007-01-25 13:35:14

Sekre
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Registered: 2006-11-24
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Re: Metisse, i want!

tomk wrote:

Available under the GPL Licence and in exclusivity for Mandriva Linux

If it's GPL, how can it be exclusive to Mandriva? :?

I was wondering that myself :S

Looks pretty sweet though. But beryl is pretty sweet too,
would be great to get ahold of both and check em out side-by-side big_smile

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#9 2007-01-25 14:29:29

picpak
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Will this thing be fast on older computers? That's all I'm concerned about.


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#10 2007-01-25 14:43:34

smoon
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Metisse has been around for quite some time now and is in no way "exclusive to Mandriva". In fact I tried it one or two years ago for the first time and it feels a lot faster and snappier than beryl/comiz. There's been a PKGBUILD in AUR as well for quite a while.

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#11 2007-01-25 15:15:43

picpak
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Re: Metisse, i want!

I made updated PKGBUILDs for metisse/nucleo from AUR:

# $Id $
# Maintainer: Alexander Mieland <dma147>

pkgname=nucleo
pkgver=0.6
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="a toolking for exploring new uses of video and new human-computer interaction techniques"
url="http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/index.html"
depends=('glibc' 'x-server' 'libjpeg' 'bash')
source=(http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/download/latest/nucleo-0.6.tar.bz2)
md5sums=('3e6e5144dfc375071c330031f9090401')

build() {
    cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-$pkgver
    ./configure --prefix=/usr
    make || return 1
    make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
}
# $Id $
# Maintainer: Alexander Mieland <dma147>

pkgname=metisse
pkgver=0.4.0rc4
pkgrel=1
pkgdesc="This is the metisse version of fvwm. It uses the fvwm-2.5.13 from cvs. metisse is a cool alternate to looking glass or other 3D desktops. It needs the nucleo library."
url="http://insitu.lri.fr/~chapuis/metisse/index.html"
depends=('x-server' 'fribidi' 'perl' 'gtk' 'imlib' 'nucleo')
source=(http://insitu.lri.fr/metisse/download/latest/$pkgname-0.4.0-rc4.tar.bz2)
md5sums=('f2f5ee1b12b2ec8cae33abec132d7616')

build() {
    
    cd $startdir/src/$pkgname-0.4.0-rc4
    ./configure 
    --prefix=/usr 
    --with-fontpath=/usr/share/fonts/misc,/usr/share/fonts/75dpi,/usr/share/fonts/100dpi 
    --with-fontenc-file=/usr/share/fonts/encodings/encodings.dir 
    --enable-glx-x86
    make || return 1
    make DESTDIR=$startdir/pkg install
}

Regards,
Picpak

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#12 2007-01-25 16:19:35

Dusty
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Metisse isn't really a window manager, so much as an experiment for new directions in HCI research. I've worked with the primary authors (See the User Interface Facades), and even they don't use it for general purpose web maintenance.

I'd suggest building from the CVS instead of the rc (at least try both packages), I think there's been a lot of major changes since that release and you'd find it interesting to check them out.

Dusty

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#13 2007-01-25 16:22:09

picpak
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Re: Metisse, i want!

And if you do use my PKGBUILDs, PLEASE make sure you change all instances of /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ to /usr/share/fonts/ .


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Picpak

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#14 2007-01-25 16:26:12

Dusty
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Re: Metisse, i want!

ehm... you edited the post and said not to use them when you could have changed those lines? :-S

Dusty

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#15 2007-01-25 20:01:26

picpak
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Re: Metisse, i want!

I didn't realize what was wrong until after I edited it, I changed it though.


Regards,
Picpak

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#16 2007-02-16 17:34:44

Mhyrraner
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Registered: 2007-02-14
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Will this thing be fast on older computers? That's all I'm concerned about.

hum ... it works on my PM-600Mhz-Laptop with ATI Rage Mobility (8Mb).
its quiet usable. but when many (transparent, rotated cool) windows are open, dektop-switching is ugly.
Nice to see a 3d-desktop on this old laptop, but i propably wont remove e17 though ..

MyR

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#17 2007-02-17 20:49:32

Shagbag
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Registered: 2006-10-25
Posts: 259

Re: Metisse, i want!

I have a VIA graphics chip and I'm kinda stuck without any 3D eye candy.  Does anyone know if Metisse works with the 'via' open source driver?  The Mandriva web site suggests it will, but I haven't tried it yet.

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#18 2007-02-18 15:09:13

aquila_deus
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Tried it today. It seems to be un-customizable, and not standard compliant  (not working with my mac menubar). hmm

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#19 2007-02-18 15:13:31

Stalwart
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Aqui, is your mac-menubar standart compliant? big_smile


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#20 2007-02-18 23:36:24

aquila_deus
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Re: Metisse, i want!

Stalwart wrote:

Aqui, is your mac-menubar standart compliant? big_smile

YES! In fact the applets use libwnck now so this is not my problem wink

It works fine in gnome, xfce, *box and basically all WMs. The model is almost as same as KDE's.

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