Why this new forum format?

ralvy · 2007-02-28 16:50:15

I find myself visiting these fora much less often since its format changed. What I find impractical are two things:

1. Inability to mark a particular forum as Read. Now I have to wait until I'm done with all Arch fora, and then mark all of them Read. I find this very impractical. Sometimes I want to read on particular forum and come back later for others. Or, I read one forum, then read another one, and then wonder if a newer post was posted in the first forum when I'm about to mark all fora as Read. This is the main reason I find these fora cumbersome now.

2. Can't set my personal settings to automatically have email notification for any thread in which I post.

hacosta · 2007-02-28 17:06:19

2.- Suscribe to this topic.

ralvy · 2007-02-28 17:31:08

hacosta wrote:

2.- Suscribe to this topic.

Oh, I know about that. It was just nice to have this set as a default so I didn't need to remember to do it on a thread-by-thread basis. I'm so used to other fora doing this automatically for me that I keep forgetting to set it here when I enter a thread I'm not subscribed to.

Snowman · 2007-03-01 01:27:59

1. It will be fixed in punbb 1.3 whenever it will be release.

neotuli · 2007-03-01 02:14:40

2. It will also be in punbb 1.3. http://dev.punbb.org/changeset/908

ralvy · 2007-03-01 02:24:07

Well, I'm mainly just wondering why we changed from the old forum software. From the user side, I only see negatives added to the forum and no positives. Perhaps there are administrative positives.

T-Dawg · 2007-03-01 03:05:45

we changed because:
1) More stable than phpbb. It has less default features but what it does have works and upgrades don't break things all to shit.
2) More practical and easier Administrative capabilities. This translates into better spam control and user management which will make your experience here better.
3) Lightweight and faster which means less strain on the server.
4) cactus likes tacos.

Dusty · 2007-03-01 03:08:11

it doesn't have polls. I hate polls. :-D

Dusty

T-Dawg · 2007-03-01 03:10:18

I have no clue why you guys don't like polls. Unless of course its those annoying TU voting polls, then I'm with you.

Pajaro · 2007-03-01 07:26:03

- 1st: it has a design that is integrated with the Arch linux web page and that looks much nicer nice. Unfortunately, phpbb base design looks ugly.
- 2nd: now it is fast. It opens all pages in less than one second, when phpbb took some seconds to load anything.

I think that these to things are objective things.

Now subjective opinion:

I am a web developer, i learned linux, i learned mac, i learned windows, i learned c, c++, java, bash, as, etc etc etc. I never got to understand PHPBB! What does sticky mean? One day i understood it better. I've got a friend who just nows windows and linux, but he spent many years of his life on irc, msn, icq, blogs, fotologs, etc. He could understand phpbb perfectly.

conclusion: phpbb is not a general purpose forum.

So now, what do we have?
- A forum that everybody understands.
- Some wanted features missing (i also miss the automatic subscriptions).
- A modern and fast forum
- A forum that looks nice

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dtw · 2007-03-01 10:20:26

T-Dawg wrote:

Unless of course its those annoying TU voting polls, then I'm with you.

What? How the hell were they annoying? That's like me moaning about the weather in Sydney.

STiAT · 2007-03-01 11:08:15

I like punbb a way better than phpbb.

I've used and administrated both (punbb, phpbb), and must say i like punbb better.
Also i find myself by far more often on the boards since the new style was released, and i think that's a thing making people different as it should be. It can't be perfect for just anyone around, so at least hope that most people can live with the new forum software .

I actually like the "lite" style on web, what completely differs from my desktop ... which is quite heavy loaded .

neotuli · 2007-03-01 13:14:28

Pajaro wrote:

Now subjective opinion:
I am a web developer, i learned linux, i learned mac, i learned windows, i learned c, c++, java, bash, as, etc etc etc. I never got to understand PHPBB! What does sticky mean? One day i understood it better. I've got a friend who just nows windows and linux, but he spent many years of his life on irc, msn, icq, blogs, fotologs, etc. He could understand phpbb perfectly.

Hmmm... I don't suppose you got curious enough to run the html validator on the forums before. I did, and phpbb..well... uhmmm... standards? what's that?

On the other hand... try running it on this thread http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% … id%3D30414

phrakture · 2007-03-01 15:55:00

ralvy wrote:

Well, I'm mainly just wondering why we changed from the old forum software. From the user side, I only see negatives added to the forum and no positives. Perhaps there are administrative positives.

Besides what everyone else mentioned, punbb is also more in line with the Arch philosophy of simplicty. Sure, that sometimes means less features, but that's not always a bad thing.

louipc · 2007-03-02 04:58:10

auto-subscribe seems like a pretty basic feature
The forum is cool though.

ralvy · 2007-03-02 05:21:20

But doesn't the fact that I can't mark a particular forum Read bother anyone else? Suppose you read all you want to read in the Newbie forum, then post a message, then you jump over to the Desktop forum, then the Arch Discussion forum, then the Pacman forum. Now you're done. Don't you wonder if something new was posted in one of the first fora you left a few minutes ago before you go back to the Index and hit the Mark Forum Read button? This wasn't a problem with the old forum system when you could mark the forum you're currently viewing Read and then move on to another forum. That's really my biggest concern.

Snowman · 2007-03-02 05:45:38

I use the 'Show new posts since last visit' link on top right. When I'm at the end of the list, I reclick that link in case new posts have been made while I was reading. Then I click on 'Mark all as read'.

Pajaro · 2007-03-02 07:06:29

ralvy, i miss auto-marking threads as read and the auto-subscriptions, but i see an improvement in simplicity/usability.

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