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#1 2007-04-02 19:15:18

cschep
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Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

My scenario is as follows:

I'm at work all day, but I want to listen to my music at home. I have complete access to SSH to my computer at home, I can open ports and all that from here.

When I was running windows, I could just TS into my box, and hit play on my media player and it would bring the audio to my work machine. It was a big laggy, but ok.

MPD seems like it could be a great solution.

Can I set up MPD to run on my machine at home, and then connect with a client on my windows machine at work to it? Is that how it works?

Or would I have to setup a shoutcast?

What do you guys do at for music at work? or are you more productive than that? smile

thanks!

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#2 2007-04-02 19:26:09

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

In short, no, that's not how MPD works.  At least as I understand it.  MPD will just let you control the music that is playing on your machine at home from work.  Great for entertaining burglars.

Check out pulseaudio, pkgs are in [community], for now at least.

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#3 2007-04-02 20:00:35

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

dtw is correct.  With mpd you would only be able to control what is playing on your home system remotely, but it would not stream the media to your remote location.

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#4 2007-04-02 20:15:22

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

I used gnump3d för a long time as a streaming server. Really easy to set up; it runs a web server on a configurable port, from which you can play your music anyway you want. I stopped using it since the latest upgrade ruined my favourite skin; I had no patience and wrote a php script that does basically the same thing. Anyway, apparently gnump3d is in community now.

(And thanks dtw and elasticdog, that's exactly what I've wanted to know about mpd - now I know it's not for me. Gotta check out pulseaudio :))

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#5 2007-04-02 20:25:06

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

Thanks for the input guys!

I'll check out gnump3d and pulseaudio.

Sucks that they broke support for your favorite skin though, I'll try pulse first, just to stick it to 'em cool

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#6 2007-04-02 21:04:33

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

maybe netjack can be of help too


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#7 2007-04-02 21:10:42

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

No-one commented on my burglar joke.  I am gutted sad  I thought that was a good one.

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#8 2007-04-02 21:24:31

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

MPD can actually do what you want, in combination with IceCast.  See this wiki article http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Str … st_and_MPD

I set it up on my server at home, and it works perfectly.  Also, check out the web-based mpd frontends like phpMp2

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#9 2007-04-02 22:46:19

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

tom5760 wrote:

MPD can actually do what you want

That's not exactly true though is it?  I could have said the same thing about pulseaudio.  MPD does not have the functionality itself; icecast, pulseaudio or some other streaming application is the answer.  The fact that mpd can be used with both is a bit incidental.  It's like saying GNOME has an awesome 3D Window Manager dohicky...if you install beryl...

If the question was: "Can MPD be used to control my pulseaudio stream?" I would have said "yes".  Actually I would have said "in theory" cos I never got pulseaudio working...thanks for the tip about icecast smile  Judging by the wiki it looks ridiculously simple to get sorted!

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#10 2007-04-02 22:55:46

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

dtw wrote:

That's not exactly true though is it?  I could have said the same thing about pulseaudio.  MPD does not have the functionality itself; icecast, pulseaudio or some other streaming application is the answer.  The fact that mpd can be used with both is a bit incidental.  It's like saying GNOME has an awesome 3D Window Manager dohicky...if you install beryl...

Fine fine, if you want to be all technical about it.  wink  But as I understand it, MPD can stream output directly to an icecast file (its commented by default in the /etc/mpd.conf file) so I figured most of the functionality was on MPDs side, its just Icecast that sends it across the internet.

So, in correction to my previous statement, MPD + Icecast will do what you want. cool

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#11 2007-04-04 12:34:20

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

MPD + IceCast is very nice solution


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#12 2007-04-04 16:26:02

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

Is mpd the right solution for me?

Yes, it is the right solution for everyone. smile


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#13 2007-04-04 16:52:03

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

lol

You're biased, man.  Did you ever get pulseaudio going?  Or did you do the icecast thing too?

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#14 2007-04-04 21:45:54

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

Thanks for following up guys. I ended up going with Icecast + MPD and it works a TREAT. It is exactly what I was looking for.

Is there anyway to configure it to be an .mp3 stream instead of .ogg? No real need, just wondered.

Also, is icecast setup to accept more than one user at a time by default? or does that take a lot of tweaking? I tried to have a friend connect real fast to mine while i was on and the "peak clients" went to 2, but he never got connected.

Maybe my upstream just wasn't fast enough..

oh! Also... maybe I should ask in another thread, but as long as we're talking about audio and .ogg and stuff..

Does anyone know of a good batch converter from .mp3 to .ogg? I think I'm going to make the switch to a fully open standard.

I have a few cd's that I purchased from the apple store as well, I don't want to break forum rules by talking about breaking drm, but I could just burn then and rip them to .ogg, or does anyone know of a way to convert those straight to .ogg?

Again, if that's not a question that should be discussed, feel free to ignore/chastise me.


thanks guys!

oh, TU: great burglar joke, i should keep a directory full of gunfire and other related movie sounds to scare the piss out of people at random. cool

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#15 2007-04-04 22:51:55

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

mp32ogg is in extra, yes!

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#16 2007-04-05 16:17:22

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

Gah! Never convert from one lossy format to another! No two lossy formats remove the same part of the audio - converting means they'll both shred it, and you'll lose substantially more quality than if you leave them as mp3s.

If you can rip from the original source and encode it as ogg, do that. If you can't, leave them alone. It won't be an improvement.


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#17 2007-04-05 17:45:03

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Re: Is mpd the right solution for me?[more questions!]

Celti,

Thanks for the info. Before I jumped in I was reading the .ogg site and got the same info ><

Looks like I'll be re-ripping what I can, leaving some, and going .ogg from here on out.

thanks again!

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