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#1 2007-04-13 01:48:47

Snarkout
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Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

I'm asking this because recently my upgrade/install experience has sucked on several US mirrors.  I'd be completely happy paying a subscription fee to have access to a quickly syncing, maintained, reasonable-speed mirror.  Anyone else?  Is this just a stupid idea?


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#2 2007-04-13 01:55:54

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

Snarkout wrote:

I'm asking this because recently my upgrade/install experience has sucked on several US mirrors.  I'd be completely happy paying a subscription fee to have access to a quickly syncing, maintained, reasonable-speed mirror.  Anyone else?  Is this just a stupid idea?

It isn't a stupid idea, but should be a last resort.

The US mirrors have been sucking, indeed.  I attempted to do a fresh install, and was forced to use my Windows partition.  The US mirrors are either not working, or extremely slow.

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#3 2007-04-13 02:20:30

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

Not to change the subject, but...

Snarkout, have you tried EasyNews, yet?

http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/

Lots of users are reporting that it's working great for them.


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#4 2007-04-13 02:47:52

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

The vt.edu mirror is also working great. The problem is that in the /etc/pacman.d/<repo> files, it is listed as ftp://...
Once I changed it to http://, it has been flying. What I worry about is the load that will be placed on the few that work well, since everyone will switch over.

http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/

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#5 2007-04-13 05:14:17

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

Snarkout wrote:

I'm asking this because recently my upgrade/install experience has sucked on several US mirrors.  I'd be completely happy paying a subscription fee to have access to a quickly syncing, maintained, reasonable-speed mirror.  Anyone else?  Is this just a stupid idea?

I don't think it's a stupid idea at all.  I had thought of bringing up paying for the right to rysnc to the main repo that was throttled and rsync restricted to official mirrors only.  If it was synced to the main archlinux repo several times per day, and then you would have the most up to date mirror, then sure, I'd pay. I'd love to rsync my private mirror to the main archlinux repo again wink  I never know when the other mirrors are updating/down etc, so sure, I'd pay to rsync to an official repo.  Heck, I even made a small donation yesterday wink

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#6 2007-04-13 05:41:33

Snarkout
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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

Borosai wrote:

The vt.edu mirror is also working great. The problem is that in the /etc/pacman.d/<repo> files, it is listed as ftp://...
Once I changed it to http://, it has been flying. What I worry about is the load that will be placed on the few that work well, since everyone will switch over.

http://mirror.cs.vt.edu/pub/ArchLinux/

I'm using vt and am happy with it for now - ibiblio was fine, too until it took a dump.  Same with gatech.  This thread was more intended to see if there was any interest in maintaining or contributing to such a mirror, though.  I'm not trying to bitch about the current state of the mirrors at all - things happen, and I certainly respect the right of the devs to have done what they did with ftp.archlinux.  The state of the mirrors did get me thinking, and I'm pretty sure similar plans have been tried with other distros with fairly good success.  There may not be the userbase or interest here though.


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#7 2007-04-13 06:43:18

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

Something that could be done, would be to find out  what organisation/institution freely mirror other Linux distros. If we ask them, they might be willing to add Arch to their list of distro.

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#8 2007-04-13 19:33:49

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

ozar wrote:

Not to change the subject, but...

Snarkout, have you tried EasyNews, yet?

http://mirrors.easynews.com/linux/archlinux/

Lots of users are reporting that it's working great for them.

++ I recently started using that mirror after having troubles, and it works awesome big_smile

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#9 2007-04-13 20:42:36

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#10 2007-04-15 19:51:46

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

I personally use nethat and it's always been a trooper for me big_smile

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#11 2007-04-16 01:04:28

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

I switched to an overseas site and update late went most of them are in bed.


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#12 2007-06-07 04:15:18

JaDa
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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

crouse wrote:

I never know when the other mirrors are updating/down etc, so sure, I'd pay to rsync to an official repo.  Heck, I even made a small donation yesterday wink

Your wife did, not you wink


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#13 2007-06-07 05:28:50

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

osuosl is now mirroring parts of the i686 tree.
The partial mirroring is due to storage issues (they didn't have alot of space available for us). Maybe in the future it will grow to include x86_64, but not yet.

http site: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/

They also have ftp at: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/

Again. Only the current and extra repositories, and only i686 so far.
They are pretty fast though, especially for people in the US (west coast).


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#14 2007-06-07 22:30:00

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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

easynews is great on my end here in the US.
Download averages 800KB/s


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#15 2007-06-21 18:09:10

JaDa
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Re: Has a pay-to-play US mirror been considered?

cactus wrote:

osuosl is now mirroring parts of the i686 tree.
The partial mirroring is due to storage issues (they didn't have alot of space available for us). Maybe in the future it will grow to include x86_64, but not yet.

http site: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/

They also have ftp at: ftp://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/archlinux/

Again. Only the current and extra repositories, and only i686 so far.
They are pretty fast though, especially for people in the US (west coast).

SoCal Aria up to 1000k/sec and more ....... wink


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