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brainwasher

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From: Lucca (Italy)

Registered: 2007-01-04

Posts: 81

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/opt or /usr ?

PLEASEEEEE, dont move gnome to /usr, please.
I want gnome in a separate directory, please.
/opt 4 president

DaNiMoTh

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Registered: 2006-06-10

Posts: 260

Re: /opt or /usr ?

GNOME is already on /usr.

brainwasher

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From: Lucca (Italy)

Registered: 2007-01-04

Posts: 81

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Re: /opt or /usr ?

what ?

tomk

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From: Ireland

Registered: 2004-07-21

Posts: 9,839

Re: /opt or /usr ?

http://www.archlinux.org/news/314/

brainwasher

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From: Lucca (Italy)

Registered: 2007-01-04

Posts: 81

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Re: /opt or /usr ?

my gnome is in /opt, not in /usr

Ramses de Norre

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From: Leuven - Belgium

Registered: 2007-03-27

Posts: 1,289

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Then you haven't updated yet or you're using a mirror that isn't synced yet.

Phrodo_00

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From: Seattle, WA

Registered: 2006-04-09

Posts: 342

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Re: /opt or /usr ?

what ?

lol I'm actually actualizing while I write this, I liked it better in /opt too, but it doesn't botter me to have it in usr either.

iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

Posts: 4,927

Re: /opt or /usr ?

except, there's no reason for keeping it in opt now

STiAT

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From: Vienna, Austria

Registered: 2004-12-23

Posts: 606

Re: /opt or /usr ?

What actually was the reason for gnome to be in /opt?

I always was interested which kind of packages should be in /opt and which in /usr...

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buddabrod

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From: Germany

Registered: 2007-02-25

Posts: 220

Re: /opt or /usr ?

What actually was the reason for gnome to be in /opt?

I always was interested which kind of packages should be in /opt and which in /usr...

Gentoo for instance puts proprietary packages like some games into /opt and all open source packages are put in /usr.
When i switched to arch, i was suprised that here is a different way of handling that.

gentoofu

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Registered: 2006-10-05

Posts: 34

Re: /opt or /usr ?

What actually was the reason for gnome to be in /opt?

I always was interested which kind of packages should be in /opt and which in /usr...

I've read that there's too much unnecessary stuff that's needed to be done when they're in /opt, like messing with scrpts, config files, PKGBUILDS, etc. I think a bunch of apps in /opt that requires stuff from /usr needs to do a lot symlinking on files and it's quite a hassle to do for each update. Anyway, in short, it'll be lighter load for the devs/maintainers.

byte

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From: Düsseldorf (DE)

Registered: 2006-05-01

Posts: 2,046

Re: /opt or /usr ?

It will surely cut down on IRC talks like this:

guy: I just installed Gnome/Firefox/whatever but I get "command not found"?!?
archer: log out and in again or run 'source /etc/profile'

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Pudge

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Registered: 2006-01-23

Posts: 300

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Just updated my system with the Gnome move to /usr.   I have two observations:

1  Had to edit the /etc/inittab line:

x:5:respawn:/opt/gnome/sbin/gdm -nodaemon

To

x:5:respawn:/usr/sbin/gdm -nodaemon

2  When I rebooted, Firestarter ran the initialization program again.  I had to reset options, and policies were totally gone and needed to be redone.

That's the only things I had to do. 

I noticed that the /opt/gnome folder still exists with some sub-folders.  I assume this is some left over files that just didn't get deleted.  At this point in time, if you have done a full system update can you safely delete the /opt/gnome folder to clean up the system?

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rpgcyco

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From: Australia

Registered: 2005-09-27

Posts: 74

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Some of those left over files belong to the gnome-common package, which is probably still installed. IIRC, some packages' install files use an absolute path when running gconf.

- Rpg Cyco

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: /opt or /usr ?

It's also possible that some community/unsupported packages (like mine ) installed in /opt/gnome haven't been moved to /usr yet. You should do a 'pacman -Qo' on these files to know to which package they belong.

I would recommend keeping the gnome-common package for a while to make sure that these packages still install and function correctly as rpgcyco said. I guess that eventually gnome-common will be removed from the repo.

cromo

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From: Czestochowa, Poland

Registered: 2006-09-20

Posts: 87

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Is this going to happen with kde, too?

JGC

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Registered: 2003-12-03

Posts: 1,664

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Moving kde to /usr is not unlikely to happen, but I think Tobias will hold off the move for a while. I think KDE will come to /usr when it hits 4.0.

attila

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Registered: 2006-11-14

Posts: 293

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Is this going to happen with kde, too?

I have heard that Fedora at example have kde in /usr and i think this is all a definition of what is a add-on packages and what is part of the default installation.

http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Files … /opt.shtml

But don't ask me too more because i am a normal human and so i like the different directories in /opt.-)

bnxs

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From: Resita, Romania

Registered: 2006-12-23

Posts: 8

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Late?

except, there's no reason for keeping it in opt now"

:mad
what about
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
or

http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Files … /opt.shtml

iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

Posts: 4,927

Re: /opt or /usr ?

Late?

except, there's no reason for keeping it in opt now"

:mad
what about
http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html
or

http://www.linux.com/guides/Linux-Files … /opt.shtml

this thread's about the gnome move from opt, and as I said above, and you quoted, there's no reason for gnome to be kept in opt now.

bnxs

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From: Resita, Romania

Registered: 2006-12-23

Posts: 8

Re: /opt or /usr ?

of course it's about moving gnome from /opt to /usr...
never mind