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#1 2007-05-19 07:33:40

geek.arnuld
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Arch internals

where i can start reading/learning about Arch internals, how Arch is designed etc. Gentoo has lots of Documentation in its "Documentation repositories and Forums". Arch Wiki is nearly empty. any pointers ?

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#2 2007-05-19 08:56:07

shining
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Re: Arch internals

Why are you making two very similar threads one just after the other ?
Anyway, for answering your question, I guess arch is so simple it doesn't require any documentation smile
More seriously, you have the most general and important topics on the main page :
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page
But if you need something more specific, just search for it in the wiki, it contains much more.

Though, while the documentation is not that bad, it's certainly not arch strongest point in my opinion.
Gentoo might be better for that.
But using the wiki and forums, you should find everything you need for the common stuff.


pacman roulette : pacman -S $(pacman -Slq | LANG=C sort -R | head -n $((RANDOM % 10)))

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#3 2007-05-19 09:27:33

geek.arnuld
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Re: Arch internals

shining wrote:

Why are you making two very similar threads one just after the other ?

NO, they are not same. this one is specific about Documentation. the other one is about general design of Arch.

shining wrote:

Anyway, for answering your question, I guess arch is so simple it doesn't require any documentation smile
More seriously, you have the most general and important topics on the main page :
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Main_Page

But if you need something more specific, just search for it in the wiki, it contains much more.

Though, while the documentation is not that bad, it's certainly not arch strongest point in my opinion.
Gentoo might be better for that.
But using the wiki and forums, you should find everything you need for the common stuff.

e.g i had "kernel panic" after "pacman -Syu"  and i got this:

http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_Panics

this one *assumes* "Let's suppose you keep the previous versions.". i did NOT keep the previous versions and there is no clue for me then, i think this article is partial in information and needs to be completed.

similarly we need to write some articles like "gcc upgrade issues" or "pacman -Syu essentials thread (which can contain precautions, pre and post checks etc).  how about the idea ?

NOTE: after "kernel panic" i switched to Gentoo  but something inside pushes me back to  Arch, don't know what it is, it's the simplicity i guess.

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#4 2007-05-19 15:18:32

ataraxia
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Registered: 2007-05-06
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Re: Arch internals

There are more pages in there than it appears. Often there is good info that's not linked from anywhere you are looking... Here is a full list of pages: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spe … lpages/ABS

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#5 2007-05-19 16:34:57

geek.arnuld
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Re: Arch internals

ataraxia wrote:

There are more pages in there than it appears. Often there is good info that's not linked from anywhere you are looking... Here is a full list of pages: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Spe … lpages/ABS

hey.. thanks for that, i think you need to put the link in a our *sticky* FAQs :-)

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#6 2007-05-19 19:50:31

sweiss
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Re: Arch internals

Arch internals, hmm.
Well, are you familiar with Bash?

If so, reviewing /etc/rc.sysinit would be a good start.
Good luck.

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#7 2007-05-20 00:01:46

Phrodo_00
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Re: Arch internals

well, everything in arch is pretty vanilla, so if some piece of software crashes, you can look support for it, not arch specifically (something you don't get with a lot of distros you know?), the only special pacman internal things would be the init scripts and pacman, both of which are pretty easy to read, I mean, it's not like bash or C are that not understandable.

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