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#1 2003-02-25 08:05:17

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yet another phoenix problem i found today. in an attempt to discover the deal with flash in did a pacman -R phoenix. yet the only thing that appeared to be removed was the nullpligin. the /opt/phoenix and the entire contents of it remained behind.


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#2 2003-02-25 22:45:41

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Re: phoenix fails to ...

actually it leaves the /opt/phoenix/lib/mozilla 1.3b behind.


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#3 2003-02-26 00:23:20

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Hmm, that's really strange. "pacman -Ql phoenix | grep lib " shows plenty of files, so pacman should delete all them fine  :?


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#4 2003-02-26 00:44:19

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Ah, I see what the problem is: when pacman removes phoenix files, it removes only files that are listed in its database as phoenix's. Therefore, all files that were moved in /opt/phoenix after installing phoenix will not be removed. Examples of such files are plugins (/opt/phoenix/lib/mozilla-1.3b/plugins/*). I do not really know how other files got in the lib directory - must be some profile files. It is possible to put "rm -rf /opt/phoenix" into install.phoenix in post_remove section; but I think this should not be done, because saving of plugins in phoenix directory will save one's time if he suddenly decides to go back to phoenix. e.g., he will not need to install plugins again, they will be already there tongue


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#5 2003-02-26 02:22:18

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well ok i understand that but the point of uninstalling something is to get rid of it not to leave reminants around to incase one changes their mind. as it stands now phoenix will remain in incoming for now.


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#6 2003-02-26 12:30:30

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Ok, phoenix-0.5-4 will remove everything in /opt/phoenix after uninstall. I will compile it as soon as I'll get home.   big_smile


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#7 2003-02-28 01:10:42

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Now see, I just got around to trying phoenix and it's 0.5-1 which installed in the /usr... which seems to work just fine with mozilla 1.2 (the 1.3b still seems to have some bugs)

Anyway they work ok together so has anyone tried with both of these installed? Just curious.


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#8 2003-02-28 06:29:01

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Yep, I'm using the 1.2 mozilla all the time for mail, and all phoenix's work just fine. smile BTW, Why did you install an older version?


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#9 2003-02-28 06:34:36

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Rouslan wrote:

Ok, phoenix-0.5-4 will remove everything in /opt/phoenix after uninstall. I will compile it as soon as I'll get home.

I'm doing that right now, but my build fails when compiling in mozilla/toolkit/components/history/src :? . I suppose this is some kind of a problem with CVS sources, so I will wait a couple hours and get new sources again   roll


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#10 2003-03-01 03:23:56

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Rouslan wrote:

Yep, I'm using the 1.2 mozilla all the time for mail

I don't normally question people's choice in email programs but why mozilla for mail? I know this is usually a personal preference for most folks so feel free to ignore me. smile

Rouslan wrote:

BTW, Why did you install an older version?

Lazy, mainly. I had downloaded it earlier in order to try and never actually gotten around to doing so. I've used mozilla quite a bit as well as galeon but never tried phoenix, I was pleasantly surprised with most aspects of it.


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#11 2003-03-01 15:30:37

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BluPhoenyx wrote:

I don't normally question people's choice in email programs but why mozilla for mail? I know this is usually a personal preference for most folks so feel free to ignore me. smile

Well, I started with netscape in RedHat 6.02. When everybody got crazy about mozilla 1.0 release, I started to use it. I used a couple of other apps, but did not like anything: some depend on their desktop environment (Kmail), some do not work with cyrillic fonts, and some do not read mozilla style mailbox and address book. I don't want to loose all mail and addresses.

BluPhoenyx wrote:

I was pleasantly surprised with most aspects of it[phoenix].

I'm glad you like it smile


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#12 2003-03-01 16:06:24

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Re: phoenix fails to ...

its not bad but i don't like that i hve to use moz 1.3b to get flash to work.


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#13 2003-03-03 01:28:53

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Yeah, way back when, I got ahold of RH 4 and used Netscape for mail too. It was simply the easiest and had a dictionary plus access to the news groups. There were some limitations to the system overall though so I started looking at other. I finally settled on Sylpheed-Claws. An enhanced Sylpheed with pgp, better filtering, spell checking (even realtime) fairly fast and allows news groups too.

Sarah, on my 56k ISP the 13b and phoenix is actually smoother than mozilla 1.2. Which reminds me. I read a cool article where they are testing high speed access via power lines. There may yet be hope for us country bumpkins.


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#14 2003-03-03 04:38:03

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oh i don't have issues with it but just so you know anything that would use it would have to be in unstable because unofficial and official packages cannot use unstable depends.

for me it is just annoying to have to switch to 1.3b to use phoenix (well at least to have flash work) and then switch back to 1.2.1 to build moz features into something like kdebindings or openoffice.


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#15 2003-03-04 00:35:10

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Oh yeah, I keep forgetting about your requirements for package building.


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