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#1 2007-05-22 16:27:49

Jacek Poplawski
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300 fonts from Ubuntu

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#2 2007-05-22 17:05:31

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

I donno but a package with a crap load of fonts would be really nice

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#3 2007-05-22 17:13:45

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

looking at "pacman -Ss font"'s output, I'd say no. It's just a case of taking the fonts from packages.ubuntu.com or wherever they got them from, though.

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#4 2007-05-22 17:27:04

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

yea, it would take forever to pack them into their own packages tho, why don't we just make some package called "shit-load-o-fonts" and add them all wink

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#5 2007-05-22 18:15:52

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

considering how much fonts slow down xwindows, apps and the wm less is better

ubuntu packs many fonts as part of the x/k/ubuntu desktop which make it slower and eat more ram its not much of a problem on newer machines but on older machines is a real pain

many apps request a font list when they are started from the wm or x

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#6 2007-05-23 18:44:54

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Actually I rarely ever needed more than one font.... Usually it is Bitstream Vera or Deja Vu.

Seriously, what is the use of hundreds of fonts?


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#7 2007-05-23 19:03:17

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Mandor wrote:

Actually I rarely ever needed more than one font.... Usually it is Bitstream Vera or Deja Vu.

Seriously, what is the use of hundreds of fonts?

Making something like an ad for a happening in school, or some presentation/slideshow... bitstream and dejavu get boring very fast, it's nice to have at least a cool title font.

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#8 2007-05-23 19:04:02

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

lord_rel wrote:

considering how much fonts slow down xwindows, apps and the wm less is better

ubuntu packs many fonts as part of the x/k/ubuntu desktop which make it slower and eat more ram its not much of a problem on newer machines but on older machines is a real pain

many apps request a font list when they are started from the wm or x

Can you explain why a great number of fonts affects the performance of X? X should be intelligent enough to only use the fonts demanded...


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#9 2007-05-23 20:27:15

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

chaosgeisterchen wrote:

Can you explain why a great number of fonts affects the performance of X? X should be intelligent enough to only use the fonts demanded...

Yeah, i doubt it would make any significant difference unless you're on a old machine. In which case you just don't install a shit-load-o-fonts.

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#10 2007-05-23 20:34:44

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Well, in windows installing shit'o'loads~tm of fonts eats up ram and makes booting slower etc...

So that ain't happening in linux?

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#11 2007-05-23 20:46:58

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Things that aren't in use should not eat up resources? I can't imagine having a file lying around without being used and hence affecting my system performance. It sounds non-logical to me.


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#12 2007-05-24 09:21:18

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Mikko777 wrote:

Well, in windows installing shit'o'loads~tm of fonts eats up ram and makes booting slower etc...

So that ain't happening in linux?

iphitus@desktop:~/.fonts$ find -type f|wc -l
631

nope. no slowdowns in linux. that's my fonts dir which i've collected over the years. I don't have as many as that appears, as it's got most of the stock ones, bitstream dejavu, and the windows ones, I keep duplicates there for convenience.  But still, I do have a few custom ones, and i dont see any slowdown on any of my computers with that ~/.fonts.

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#13 2007-05-24 10:06:26

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Absolutely no slowdown in linux, I have

find /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ -type f | wc -l
1897

and no problem whatsoever. I agree that a huge font package would be much appreciated, as long as there aren't weird fonts as the ones with dogs instead of letters and things like that.


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#14 2007-05-24 11:14:41

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Well... great!

Gimme fonts then smile

Is it possible to get that ubuntu package and extract it and make it an arch package?

Edit: Nevermind teh nooby question, didn't know it was this easy...

Here's gentium for instance

http://packages.ubuntu.com/feisty/x11/ttf-gentium

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#15 2007-05-24 15:02:21

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Since I am the original poster, let it be my honor to create the shit-load-o-fonts package wink The only problem is that our mighty Trusted Users will remove package with such a name, any better ideas? smile

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#16 2007-05-24 15:35:18

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Think its best to refrain "original" packagenames:

ttf-gentium
ttf-dustin
ttf-georgewilliams
ttf-sjfonts sun-java6-fonts
ttf-larabie-deco
ttf-larabie-straight
ttf-larabie-uncommon

Altho in that case it's prolly easier to install these by hand than with aurbuild roll

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#17 2007-05-24 15:49:13

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

How about something like 'poplawski_font_collection'?  Banal and potentially uninteresting, but somewhat descriptive...

Are any of these similar to the "top 50 list" here?  I noticed in the comments on that page that there is an apparent penalty for incredibly large numbers of installed fonts, so something like the "top 50" may be a good idea too.

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#18 2007-05-24 16:33:07

prim
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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

It would be nice to have java fonts available after installing jdk or jre. There's a bug report already.


Feel free to correct my English

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#19 2007-05-24 20:56:24

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

A properly hinted substitue for Tahoma would be just perfect.


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#20 2007-05-25 09:34:37

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

What if everyone interested makes a list of fonts he would like to being added and, after having collected a good number, the mantainer makes the package? We could call it "community-fonts" or "arch-community-fonts", given that they are indeed choosen by the arch community.
Once in a year the mantainer could make a poll here asking what font should be added/removed, to keep the package updated to community's requests.


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#21 2007-05-25 10:58:00

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

onearm wrote:

What if everyone interested makes a list of fonts he would like to being added and, after having collected a good number, the mantainer makes the package? We could call it "community-fonts" or "arch-community-fonts", given that they are indeed choosen by the arch community.
Once in a year the mantainer could make a poll here asking what font should be added/removed, to keep the package updated to community's requests.

Great idea +1

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#22 2007-05-25 11:33:26

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

package them with the same packages as ubuntu, and check the aur, as some of these may already be done.

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#23 2007-06-01 06:33:58

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Re: 300 fonts from Ubuntu

Sooooooo What happened to this? I was looking forward to the development of the idea and seeing where it would go??

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