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#1 2007-06-05 14:52:56

mianka
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Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

I am trying to install ARCHPPC on an Ibook/PPC (12 inch).I can setup ethernet, net is pingeable.When I try to install base as per ppc-install-wiki it fails. It dowloads pacman.pkg.tar.gz, packages.txt, then syncs package databases,downloads current.db.tar.gz and finally gives this error:

/mnt/var/lib/pacman/current.db.tar.gz :No such file or directory
acl:not found in sync db
Package installation FAILED.

I tried 3 times, the fault is repeatable.I am using the most recent FTP-cd


Any suggestion?

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#2 2007-06-05 20:00:59

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Yes. Ask the Guys that make it. The PPC-Platform is NOT an official port and most likely no-one in here has ever tried it. Go to http://www.archlinuxppc.org/ and check for their HowTos and Documentation and maybe check back with them in person via eMail or IRC.


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#3 2007-06-05 20:18:34

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

mucknert wrote:

Yes. Ask the Guys that make it. The PPC-Platform is NOT an official port and most likely no-one in here has ever tried it. Go to http://www.archlinuxppc.org/ and check for their HowTos and Documentation and maybe check back with them in person via eMail or IRC.

Actually that's not really true, there's quite a few people upgrading per day but we simply don't want to become official for misc. reasons. My problem as head developer at the moment is, that I don't have a ppc myself anymore. A friend of mine accidently broke my iBook and the insurance replaced it with a dual core x84_86 cos ppc ibooks are gone before they're on ebay or way way way too expensive.

I plan to get a mini asap though. Also accept donations. wink

Nevertheless, I'll try to fix the issue with out build machine.


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#4 2007-06-05 20:37:07

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

thank you kth5.I'llwait a bit.This is not a production machine.

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#5 2007-06-11 04:19:23

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

there's an error in /arch/quickinst
the XferCommand should have a lower case "%o" not "%O", editing this makes it work smile

/back to installing arch on the ibook


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#6 2007-06-11 07:56:49

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

New iso should be out like soon'ish.
Btw, we now have a Bugtracker! smile


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#7 2007-06-11 09:21:57

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

mucknert wrote:

Yes. Ask the Guys that make it. The PPC-Platform is NOT an official port and most likely no-one in here has ever tried it. Go to http://www.archlinuxppc.org/ and check for their HowTos and Documentation and maybe check back with them in person via eMail or IRC.

Posted in forum: "Arch64 & Other Architectures"

Pray tell, what's the meaning of "Other" then? ;)

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#8 2007-06-15 01:08:34

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

I really would like to use ArchPPC on my laptop, because tbh... I hate debian after using Arch. It just seems so messy now tongue

The one thing holding me back though is, I can't get abs to connect to the ArchPPC CVS. I changed the supfiles but no luck, didn't work (some error about not being able to connect to cvs.archlinuxppc.org, can't remember offhand)
What's the "proper" way of checking out the pkgbuilds? If I could get that work, I have two powerpc processors that would love to compile and help maintain packages. wink


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#9 2007-06-15 03:15:33

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

kano wrote:

I really would like to use ArchPPC on my laptop, because tbh... I hate debian after using Arch. It just seems so messy now tongue

The one thing holding me back though is, I can't get abs to connect to the ArchPPC CVS. I changed the supfiles but no luck, didn't work (some error about not being able to connect to cvs.archlinuxppc.org, can't remember offhand)
What's the "proper" way of checking out the pkgbuilds? If I could get that work, I have two powerpc processors that would love to compile and help maintain packages. wink

I will add this info to the site as soon as I can get around to it:

$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.archlinuxppc.org:/home/cvs-current co current
$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.archlinuxppc.org:/home/cvs-arch co arch
$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.archlinuxppc.org:/home/cvs-extra co extra
$ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.archlinuxppc.org:/home/cvs-unstabke co unstable

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#10 2007-06-15 10:50:42

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Thanks kth5. smile
I'll probably be messing around with it tonight.


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#11 2007-06-21 11:31:36

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Well I got quite a bit further (using the full base install CD), well until the point "install kernel and openssh" in the manual.They download correctly ,there are no conflicts says pacman and then I get this:
"error:could not prepare transaction"
"error:failed to commit transaction(not enough space on disk)"

I am baffled!When I do a "df" I get a warning first:"cannot read table of mounted file systems:no such file or directory" and then it shows me the disk usage after all:only 2%! That is not quite consistent with the error messages. In another message on this forum (http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=33963) I found an indication.When checking the new install, the /etc/mtab is empty.

Now my question (as I do not find anything in the PPC-install guide):How do I correct this? I already had a look on an AMD64 but the Apple FSTAB is too different to take it over.

So long.

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#12 2007-06-23 08:10:18

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

I've just created a new ftp-installer iso with a working setup-menu. All except Auto-Prepare (currently disabled) should work fine now, so there's no need to do the quickinst-way anymore. Please try and report any bugs.

New ISO:
ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/iso/snapshot … tp.iso.bz2


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#13 2007-06-23 12:22:53

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

I found a solution for the mtab problem.:I had to copy them from /proc/mounts (had seen yhat in the Gentoo-linux manual).Also ,the installer seems to put vmlinuz on the wrong place.Once corrected ( by looking at an AMD64 install)  Archppc did run.

Anyway ,as this is not a production machine,i"ll test the new ISO.

Thanks for helping.

PS: How do you mark a thread as solved?

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#14 2007-06-23 18:11:05

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

mianka wrote:

I found a solution for the mtab problem.:I had to copy them from /proc/mounts (had seen yhat in the Gentoo-linux manual).Also ,the installer seems to put vmlinuz on the wrong place.Once corrected ( by looking at an AMD64 install)  Archppc did run.

Anyway ,as this is not a production machine,i"ll test the new ISO.

Thanks for helping.

PS: How do you mark a thread as solved?

Thank you for testing! I've already found the first critical bug, I forgot to add a hook for usbinput which may cause init-panics ("not syncing..."). An updated iso should hit the server asap.


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#15 2007-06-23 21:27:40

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Thank you Armin.Just dloaded ppc23/06ftp-install.
It is a disaster:

- nearly no keyboards available:very annoying under Unix/Linux as the special keys are on completely different locations (on a BE kb it is a disaster!)

-missing fonts is not important if you stay in latin characters.

-networking is a complete no-go.Nor dhcp, neither fixed-address work,there is no way to access the internet,which is rather annoying for an FTP-install.

As I wasn't able to go further I can't comment on the rest of the install.

Hope this is of some help for you.

So long,

Michel

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#16 2007-06-24 05:58:35

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

mianka wrote:

- nearly no keyboards available:very annoying under Unix/Linux as the special keys are on completely different locations (on a BE kb it is a disaster!)

-missing fonts is not important if you stay in latin characters.

Aye, there's actually only 4 keymaps and no fonts at all,  need to look into this.

-networking is a complete no-go.Nor dhcp, neither fixed-address work, there is no way to access the internet,which is rather annoying for an FTP-install.

Did you try this on both network devices?  You won't be able to use a broadcom-based airport wlan-card, unless you supply the firmware (bcm43xx-fwcutter is on the iso).

EDIT: Updated iso with keymaps/fonts included is now available: ftp://ftp.archlinuxppc.org/iso/snapshot … tp.iso.bz2.

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#17 2007-06-24 17:51:08

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

As far as I can remember I tried both.Anyway I dl-ed the new one to test.I'll let you some news.
So long

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#18 2007-06-24 20:12:41

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Everything installed well, I had indeed to use eth1 as interface, but now I have another problem: My Ibook does not start up anymore.It boots  but stops with the message :
please wait,loading kernel...
/pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:3,/boot/vmlinux26: Unknown or corrupt filesystem.

Nevertheless I stil can access and use it by "chrooting",the system installed and is working.

So long

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#19 2007-06-24 21:42:50

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

mianka wrote:

Everything installed well, I had indeed to use eth1 as interface, but now I have another problem: My Ibook does not start up anymore.It boots  but stops with the message :
please wait,loading kernel...
/pci@f4000000/ata-6@d/disk@0:3,/boot/vmlinux26: Unknown or corrupt filesystem.

Nevertheless I stil can access and use it by "chrooting",the system installed and is working.

So long

Hmmm... I've never seen this before. What type of filesystem do you use? Maybe there's a connection. For now you could try two things from the chroot: a) reinstall the kernel and  b) bind /dev, /proc and /sys to the chrootdir, "chroot" and run mkofboot and ybin.


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#20 2007-06-25 20:04:52

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

This problem is solved now,everything (Archlinuxppc,X) starting now. Question of reading the manual with dirty glasses.


But not all is rosy:KDE/PPC seems broken:Installation breaks down with this mssg:

"checking package integrity...
: : Archive ghostscript-8.15.4-2.pkg.tar.gz is corrupted.Do you want to delete it? (Y/n) Y
error: failed to commit transaction (corrupted package)
archive ghostscript-andsoon was corrupted (bad MD5 or SHA1 checsum)

errors occurred,no packages were upgraded"

Used server is ftp.archlinuxppc.org

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#21 2007-06-26 00:03:23

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

30 minutes after  my precedent mail the problem was solved.Ibook is now happily "Arching" away.Thank you all.

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#22 2007-06-26 01:11:05

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

Yes, my iBook is arching aswell smile Only problem I have now is that closing the lid while X is running causes it to lock up (didn't do that under debian) but it works fine from the console... I assume it's probably some configuration with X or pbbuttonsd though, and I just haven't had a chance to mess with it.


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#23 2007-06-26 01:27:18

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

kano wrote:

Yes, my iBook is arching aswell smile Only problem I have now is that closing the lid while X is running causes it to lock up (didn't do that under debian) but it works fine from the console... I assume it's probably some configuration with X or pbbuttonsd though, and I just haven't had a chance to mess with it.

Which GFX chipset does yours have? If it's driven by xorg-video-nv suspend is not really playing nice. Rage128 and Radeon up to 9250 should be fine, it's what I used to have in my late iBook too.


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#24 2007-06-26 04:22:49

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

It's a Radeon 7500M. Worked great under Debian and when I used Gentoo about ~3 years ago, which leads me to believe it must be a config problem.


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#25 2007-06-28 03:31:25

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Re: Arch ppc seems broken(SOLVED)

A little update; suspending on lid close works fine when X is run w/ GDM. I'm assuming it must of been some permissions things, but oh well. I wanted to use GDM anyways wink

One last question, I've built packages for openbox and sonata which are in i686 but not ppc extra. Is there anyway I could submit these? I wouldn't mind maintaining them either. I also have a couple packages built from community, but I'm not sure what to do about these since there's no ppc community.


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