Hal?

viergeame · 2007-06-17 00:56:25

I got my USB flash drive mounted, but I can't see the files on it. When I try to see them I get this error "Feature only available with HAL". I must not know exactly what HAL is or how it works or something. I tried looking it up, but it seemed like all the results I found mentioning HAL assumed it was doing whatever it is supposed to be doing.

ataraxia · 2007-06-17 01:48:50

Is hal running? You need to put it into DAEMONS in rc.conf.

kano · 2007-06-17 02:13:39

# /etc/rc.d/hal start

and as ataraxia suggested, put in your DAEMONS in rc.conf to make it start every boot.

lloeki · 2007-06-17 10:16:55

and be sure to have dbus too, hal is mostly useless without dbus.

kano · 2007-06-17 10:44:17

Starting the hal daemon will automatically start the dbus daemon if it's not running, so there's no need to explicitly start dbus. Also, dbus is a depend of hal so it's (should be) not possible to have hal without dbus

lloeki · 2007-06-17 17:46:23

good catch, kano

viergeame · 2007-06-17 20:54:50

I got hal and dbus installed, and I set them to start up on boot. It caused a problem that is a bit more serious though. Now when I try to boot, it gets to the part where it starts to load the daemons and won't go any further. I get a bunch of errors saying that it ran out of memory trying to load dbus. I'm guessing that I just need to get into the /etc/rc.conf and take those daemons off the list. I don't know how to get to that though. I tried opening a command line from the screen that gives me the option to go into Arch of Arch Fallback, but I couldn't figure out how to get to nano from there. When I tried I got an error saying that the command was unrecognized.

kano · 2007-06-17 21:48:49

You're probably going to need to boot up from the Arch installer cd and mount your root to fix it.

# mount /dev/sdXY /mnt
# nano /mnt/etc/rc.conf

replace sdXY with whatever your root device is.

edit: How much memory do you have?

Last edited by kano (2007-06-17 21:49:16)

viergeame · 2007-06-18 02:40:25

Forgive my ignorance but, I am still missing something apparently.... When I tried to mount my root drive it said that it didn't exist. So I looked in the fstab and it's not there. Maybe I am not doing the right thing when I boot....

As for the memory, I don't remember how much I have. It's an oldish computer so probably not much. All I can say is it must not be enough.

chaosgeisterchen · 2007-06-18 06:44:37

Removable devices do not show up in fstab.

Which commands did you use?

viergeame · 2007-06-18 15:16:09

First I tried to mount the drives using the exact commands kano gave, using sda1 instead of sdXY of course. When that didn't work I decided to check the fstab to see if maybe I remembered the name of the drive wrong. To do that I used

# less /etc/fstab

When I did that I didn't see anything I recognized. It came up with

none     /proc               proc          defaults 0 0
none     /sys                sysfs         defaults 0 0
none     /dev/pts          devpts        defaults 0 0
none     /dev/shm         tmpfs        defaults 0 0

I am not really sure what any of that is, I am assuming is has something to do with booting off the CD. Maybe I managed to do that wrong.

I get myself in trouble with these things by just venturing a guess instead of asking for help until things get messed up enough that I have no choice. Maybe one day I will learn not to do that, probably not though.

emmybear · 2007-06-18 16:24:17

If you did not mount your partition and chroot to it, then /etc/fstab is the fstab file for the CD, not for your installation. Before you can edit any of the files on your hard drive, you need to mount it somewhere.

So, mount /dev/hdXY to /mnt. Then edit /mnt/etc/rc.conf, and proceed to remove the hal from the daemon list.

As for running out of resources to start dbus and hal, please tell us how much RAM you have, and if you have any swap space. Cheers.

kano · 2007-06-18 17:29:17

Hmm, I swore I had replied to this but I guess not :S

Your root device might be named different on the livecd... could you do `fdisk -l` and see if you can find your root under a different device name? (perhaps hda1?)

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Hal?

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Re: Hal?

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