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pkraw

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From: Poland

Registered: 2007-05-07

Posts: 35

Xine based music player for GNOME?

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<intro>Okay, I give up. Hours spent on tweaking, configuring, testing, installing, running and then removing... Gstreamer based music players. I've tried rhythmbox, banshee, exaile and quod libet. I've tried outputting to alsa, oss and esd. I've tried almost every single alsamixer control. Now I'm tired.

And it's all about... Audio quality.

Do not consider my post a flame. There are many people actually pleased with gstreamer. It is just me, who isn't. Cracks when seeking through song, noise when playing audio CD. I said 'NO'! All the more, xine based players play my music as I wish it was played. The solution seems simple to me - use xine based player. And here comes the heart of the matter.</intro>

I'm using GNOME, and I can't think of any such (see topic or intro) player. I already have totem-xine, but it isn't a comfortable music player. Maybe eventually I'll end using amarok, but if anyone with more knowledge could help me to find some player which integrates with GNOME, I'd be grateful.

Oh, and I'd like to say it once more time - I'm not writing to complain about gstreamer. I'm just trying to gather some information about alternatives. Linux is about choice, isn't it?

tardo

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Registered: 2006-07-15

Posts: 526

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

rhythmbox uses xine too...

lucke

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From: Poland

Registered: 2004-11-30

Posts: 4,019

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

Perhaps you should try MPD + gnomish frontends or xmms-ish players like audacious or bmp instead.

Last edited by lucke (2007-06-13 20:31:26)

pkraw

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From: Poland

Registered: 2007-05-07

Posts: 35

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

tardo, this is from http://www.gnome.org/projects/rhythmbox:

Rhythmbox is an integrated music management application, originally inspired by Apple's iTunes. It is free software, designed to work well under the GNOME Desktop, and based on the powerful GStreamer media framework.

Thanks lucke, I'll try them for sure.

hussam

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Registered: 2006-03-26

Posts: 572

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Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

rhythmbox started out as xine but it has been only gstreamer for the last few years.

Last edited by hussam (2007-06-14 01:22:24)

Snowman

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From: Montreal, Canada

Registered: 2004-08-20

Posts: 5,212

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

amarok uses xine as a backend. However, it's a KDE app so it might not be what you're looking for.

pelle.k

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From: Åre, Sweden (EU)

Registered: 2006-04-30

Posts: 667

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

I feel your pain.
Since both amarok and kaffeine are xine based since way back, i've enjoyed a trouble free music and video experience in kde for some time now.
ATM i'm running gnome though, and there's really no really stable and decent gstreamer based audio or video player. Most of them are only beta quality, or doesn't support gstreamer-xxx or whatever...
xine? doesn't seem to be too popular around the gnome camp. totem-xine is a nice addition though. But that's just for video. IMO.
In lack of a decent music player, i've settled for bmp (audacious would suffice too...). I can't play last.fm streams, but it has got tray and multimedia key support, drag and drop support (omg how many gnome apps i've tried where drag'n'drop didn't work. hey, its year 2007 anyone?) gnome-vfs (if you adjust the pkgbuild), i can add my pls/m3u radio streams, a win-amp like gui with a playlist that does what it looks like. no frills.

Seriously, i've given up to find a gstreamer music player that doens't crash, or miss a couple of features.

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iphitus

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From: Melbourne, Australia

Registered: 2004-10-09

Posts: 4,927

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

give mpd with a gtk/gnome front a try?

delaril

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Registered: 2007-02-11

Posts: 9

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

I think QuodLibet has just got xine support, at least it looks like it while browsing through trac.

06/18/07, 07:00
Changeset [4129] by piman
Xine backend. (Lukáš Lalinský)

I know this guy has been working on xine in QuodLibet since December 2006, at least. I'm looking forward to trying the latest svn revision!

xenobrain

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From: Lodi, CA

Registered: 2006-05-31

Posts: 91

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

I'm not quite sure why you're set on Xine exactly, but if the requirement is really just "something that works better than GStreamer" and you're looking for a GTK2 jukebox, BMPx is coming along nicely.

emmybear

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Registered: 2007-04-20

Posts: 38

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

I'm not quite sure why you're set on Xine exactly, but if the requirement is really just "something that works better than GStreamer" and you're looking for a GTK2 jukebox, BMPx is coming along nicely.

Yah, but BMPx uses GStreamer as a backend from what I saw, so it would not exactly be the best of choices for him. lol

If Quod Libet does not have a xine plugin, then I suppose you might have to use Amarok. I am not sure what all it would pull in on a system without KDE though, but since you are not on something like Gentoo it should not take all that long. xD

Gullible Jones

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Registered: 2004-12-29

Posts: 4,863

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

Audacious - not all that great IMHO.

MPD - wonderful, but the fact that it's a daemon can be a boon or a bane depending on what you do with it.

Totem-xine - playlist functionality lets it work as a rather minimal music player.

Pymp - rather minimal. Uses MPlayer.

Just a sidenote... I've never experienced bad sound with GStreamer 0.10.x, but then, I'm no audiophile. However, I have noticed that Exaile sounds really crappy and a damn site louder than other media players - not sure if that's from replaygain (which I can't seem to find an option for) or what.

xenobrain

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From: Lodi, CA

Registered: 2006-05-31

Posts: 91

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

I'm not quite sure why you're set on Xine exactly, but if the requirement is really just "something that works better than GStreamer" and you're looking for a GTK2 jukebox, BMPx is coming along nicely.

Yah, but BMPx uses GStreamer as a backend from what I saw, so it would not exactly be the best of choices for him. lol

If Quod Libet does not have a xine plugin, then I suppose you might have to use Amarok. I am not sure what all it would pull in on a system without KDE though, but since you are not on something like Gentoo it should not take all that long. xD

Actually I looked it up: BMPx was using Xine as the backend prior to version 0.14.0, looks like that's changed to GStreamer now as you've stated. I haven't used the program for a while but last I did I'm sure it was using Xine,  and was a rather competant jukebox.

I was also running XFCE as my DE, but have since switched back to KDE and am using Amarok again

john_schaf

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From: France

Registered: 2007-02-24

Posts: 105

Re: Xine based music player for GNOME?

On my machine xine uses much less cpu than gstreamer.

For me lightweight is also low ram and cpu usage (i've got a netbook), and that's why I won't use anything based on gstreamer.

I use musicmanager : uses xine and is made by an arch-user. I only miss a file-based browsing mode...