Arch Linux

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

 

 

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:54:15)

ezzetabi

Member

Registered: 2006-08-27

Posts: 947

Re:  

I can't even start it....
Whats wrong in

stjerm -m Control -k XK_A

?

ataraxia

Member

From: Pittsburgh

Registered: 2007-05-06

Posts: 1,553

Re:  

I haven't tried the app, but I'm amused by the pun (Stjepan + Skjerm = Stjerm)

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:51)

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:46)

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:41)

stonecrest

Member

From: Boulder

Registered: 2005-01-22

Posts: 1,190

Re:  

Any reason you haven't put it in AUR?

---

I am a gated community.

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:35)

ezzetabi

Member

Registered: 2006-08-27

Posts: 947

Re:  

What about that?

$ stjerm -k F12
error: no composite manager running

onearm

Member

From: Anywhere but here

Registered: 2006-07-06

Posts: 359

Website

Re:  

@ezzetabi: if you aren't running compiz or beryl you need to use

-t fake

among the options.

@stjepan: I do like it but I have a couple of problems:
- bg and fg options don't work correctly, bg never works while fg works only if it's not specified a background color.
- same thing with opacity (maybe it needs a composite manager running?)

Overall it's very good, I'd suggest, if I may, to add some more options like mixed positioning (top+left, center, bottom+right and so on), Esc and Winkey support and maybe a configuration file with complete configurability (colors, border width, size and all the usual stuff).

---

To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three persons, two of them absent.
--
My Github

stonecrest

Member

From: Boulder

Registered: 2005-01-22

Posts: 1,190

Re:  

Here is my listing of bugs/feature requests:

1. Toggling using the shortcut key rarely works correctly. 9 times out of 10, if stjerm is visible and I press my shortcut key (F10 in this case), stjerm will hide and then show itself again automatically about half a second later.

2. When I right-click, stjerm suddenly disappears and I get the popup menu floating in space.

3. Typing "exit" into stjerm doesn't cause the terminal to quit. It seems the only way to quit the terminal is to right-click and choose 'quit'?

4. Support for ~/.Xdefaults seems to be pretty universal for terminals. I imagine it's a decent amount of work, but it'd be great if stjerm could make use of this file.

I'm using xfce 4.4 with composite enabled. Hopefully this helps you squash some bugs, keep up the good work

---

I am a gated community.

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:31)

lloeki

Member

From: France

Registered: 2007-02-20

Posts: 456

Website

Re:  

seems like a great alternative! I don't like some things in both yakuake and tilda, and I'm eager to try it.

3. Yes that's ok, it reloads it. Should it quit the app?

it should be an option. personnally I expect it to be persistent i.e always there even if I exit the shell (i.e exit shell=>load a new shell) but some people expect exit the shell=quit the app, so yes, making it an option is the best

oh, could you make it arch=('i686' 'x86_64') ?

Last edited by lloeki (2007-07-01 14:32:36)

---

To know recursion, you must first know recursion.

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:26)

stonecrest

Member

From: Boulder

Registered: 2005-01-22

Posts: 1,190

Re:  

1. Do you use version 0.3? Yes I know that bug and I have fixed it in revision 117 in svn. I don't see that bug anymore. It works OK with compiz, metacity and xfwm4.

2. I don't see that bug with compiz, only metacity and xfwm4. I'll try to fix it.

3. Yes that's ok, it reloads it. Should it quit the app?

4. Hmm I see no use of config files for such a terminal app... you never start it manualy, do you?

1. I was usinig 0.3, yes. I still see this behavior with 0.4 too, using xfwm4. Maybe it's the way I have xfwm4 configured, I don't know. Here are my xfwm4 config files, if that helps:

~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/xfwm4.xml -> http://pastebin.archlinux.org/7278
~/.config/xfce4/mcs_settings/wmtweaks.xml -> http://pastebin.archlinux.org/7279

2. Thanks, looks fixed

3. I have never seen a terminal where it didn't quit the app, although I admit that I didn't even consider you were doing it this way on purpose. IMO, there should definitely be some way to quit the app other than having to use the mouse.

4. The point is that, right now, I can switch between urxvt, aterm, eterm, etc etc without having to manually configure each one. I took the time to create a .Xdefaults since it's pretty much universally used. I think many others would expect this, but it's your application

---

I am a gated community.

lloeki

Member

From: France

Registered: 2007-02-20

Posts: 456

Website

Re:  

3. I have never seen a terminal where it didn't quit the app

yakuake. closing/exiting the last tab makes it recreate one in place. while closing a term like *term/konsole makes sense, it doesn't (at least to me) for a 'persistent' app like a drop down console. I mean, you always expect to find a console ready right under the toggle key, even if you have exited the last shell.

my 2 cents app-behaviour suggestion: exiting the last shell closes the shell and makes the term respawn, but toggles the console to be hidden. that way, it 'exits' but pressing the toggle key to show the console again presents you with a fresh new shell.
and make that an option, like "action on last shell exit: {respawn shell | hide term+respawn shell | close term}".

PS: I can't find the app in the AUR anymore... is that intended?

Last edited by lloeki (2007-07-01 19:32:05)

---

To know recursion, you must first know recursion.

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:21)

stonecrest

Member

From: Boulder

Registered: 2005-01-22

Posts: 1,190

Re:  

@stonecrest
1. I guess this line is the problem:  <option name="Xfwm/PreventFocusStealing" type="int" value="0"/>
Focus stealing should be disabled.
4. Can you show me your .Xdefaults file just for an example?

1. Actually, value=0 means it's disabled And I went through the various options until I found the problem. When "automatically give focus to newly created windows" in the window manager's settings is enabled, I have the problem. When disabled, stjerm works fine. Hopefully you can do something about it since I don't want to have to click on stjerm to manually give it focus everytime I toggle it visible.

2. Sure, here you go: http://pastebin.archlinux.org/7314
As you can see, it specifies some fonts, colors, etc. Some of the things are urxvt-specific.

---

I am a gated community.

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:16)

lloeki

Member

From: France

Registered: 2007-02-20

Posts: 456

Website

Re:  

tried it (0.4) today, excellent application indeed!
blazingly fast and insanely lightweight. great work!

---

To know recursion, you must first know recursion.

onearm

Member

From: Anywhere but here

Registered: 2006-07-06

Posts: 359

Website

Re:  

Thanks for all your improvements/bugfixes, it's indeed a great term. Using right now instead of yakuake

Last edited by onearm (2007-07-02 08:24:48)

---

To get something done, a committee should consist of no more than three persons, two of them absent.
--
My Github

stjepan

Member

Registered: 2006-07-02

Posts: 76

Re:  

.

Last edited by stjepan (2022-09-20 21:45:12)

pelle.k

Member

From: Åre, Sweden (EU)

Registered: 2006-04-30

Posts: 667

Re:  

Great work with 0.5! I have two "bugs" to report.

1. The border remains black when you use black bg. The effect is that no border is visible.
2. I have to "click to focus" stjerm. I use gnome 2.18.

---

"Your beliefs can be like fences that surround you.
You must first see them or you will not even realize that you are not free, simply because you will not see beyond the fences.
They will represent the boundaries of your experience."
SETH / Jane Roberts

lloeki

Member

From: France

Registered: 2007-02-20

Posts: 456

Website

Re:  

suggestion:
when -w and/or -h args value end with %, then it's a percentage of actual screen width/height.

edit: arg value <100 is probably better, given that the term is unlikely to be 100px wite/tall anyway

Last edited by lloeki (2007-07-02 15:25:26)

---

To know recursion, you must first know recursion.

stonecrest

Member

From: Boulder

Registered: 2005-01-22

Posts: 1,190

Re:  

@stonecrest
1. No, sorry I can't fight with a WM.

Well, perhaps your choice of implementation causes you to have to fight with the WM when you shouldn't have to? I obviously don't know the details, but others (e.g. tilda, urxvt's kuake extension) don't have this problem.

Thanks for implementing the ability to use .Xdefaults.

---

I am a gated community.