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#1 2007-06-09 06:02:11

shazeal
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Loving Arch.

Big thanks to the guys that put together Arch, I just moved both my girlfriends and my own computer from Gentoo to arch. I must say not only is installing stuff 1000x faster lol, the system as a whole feels more responsive. And now that Ive configured up a package of my favorite patch set Kamikaze with CFS15, it just blows Gentoo away IMO.
Configuring the system is easy, there are far less configuration issues as far as application integration in Xfce4 (my favorite WM), I love it! big_smile
I don't even miss the zillion ebuilds, since I can just make an ABS package for them smile

Keep up the great work.

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#2 2007-06-09 06:54:50

hacosta
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Re: Loving Arch.

welcome

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#3 2007-06-10 14:05:08

jcci
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Re: Loving Arch.

A lot of reviews described Arch Linux as a distro for advanced users. So I didn't want to touch it for a while. Just after trying all big distros, having a not 100% satisfying company network, never succeed to customise a system with a mainstream distro the way I wish and also never found the promise of easieness and performance fulfilled, finally I gave Arch a try. It has no fancy graphical installer, but hell - everything worked just like in the manual and in no time I've got an exciting system. The big distros install of course super easy, but once you face a problem you quickly feel the limits. I also learned a lot about Linux during just one week with Arch - mainly that a lot of config tools are not really important as modifying the text files is easy as long as you have a good newbie guide. For convenience I installed Webmin anyway. As soon as I solved one problem with Freenx this distro will go to our company and as soon a we got a better Internet line I may offer mirroring in China.
Thanks for a distro, that really improves the fun with computers!
And again for the record: It is not soooo hard to install! No fear newbies, just try!

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#4 2007-06-10 15:23:47

kano
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Re: Loving Arch.

Good to hear. smile
Welcome to Arch!


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#5 2007-06-10 21:44:15

NevroMance
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Re: Loving Arch.

Must say that I to love arch. I was scared when I sat down to insall it, since I heard it was a distro for advanced users, something i don't feel that I am. But I wanted to learn more about Linux, so I tried arch since I heard much about how fast it is and how good pacman is. The installation was easy, and when I should set the distro upp, everything was so nicely documented in the config files, so everything about it was easy. And I must say that I love pacman to. It feels like it's just as fast as apt-get that debian uses, and you don't have to fool around with the repos, except uncommenting the one nearest to you.

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#6 2007-06-11 10:07:06

Roberth
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Re: Loving Arch.

Who doesnt love arch?


Use the Source, Luke!

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#7 2007-06-11 15:09:33

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Re: Loving Arch.

FaunOS, based on archlinux, is worth a close look if you have a bootable USB flash drive.  It loads a downloadable .img file into a 1GB flash device which boots into arch based system packages.

Pacman is utilized and aufs provided.

Well worth a look-see and handy with a portable flash boot!:)


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#8 2007-06-14 21:44:17

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Re: Loving Arch.

I have to agree, Arch is just hands down awesome. It's so nice having things all up to date and fairly new and fresh.

My favorite distro before Arch was Debian, which is good at one thing: breaking things into packages and keeping you 2 years out of date. I do have to give them credit though, Debian is very very stable and everything just works.

That was all fine and dandy by me until I realized, "Hey, I'm running software that's all 2 years out of date!"

Then I came to Arch. There are excellent repos filled with the packages that many people will want. There aren't packages for everything like Debian has, but the AUR makes up for it. Everything works, and I have yet to find a problem with any stock setup.
Arch is the best of both worlds for me, a good package system and up to date packages.

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#9 2007-06-15 02:22:24

nikron
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Re: Loving Arch.

Also, I absolutely adore ABS.  It is such an awesome system. =P

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#10 2007-06-23 23:29:10

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Re: Loving Arch.

Let me join big_smile
I've installed Arch just 4 days ago, all I can say is WOW (which has nothing to do with the wow of the *other* OS). I spent hours and hours fiddling around, reading, then fiddling again, then reading again, I couldn't and I can't stop, it's all to pleasant. I still have to dig it more, but so far I foresee a bright future, since Arch has convinced me to stay. I don't think I will be going anywhere else, I absolutely love it.
I'm coming from Ubuntu, which is quite cool, nothing against it, but it's just that I like a higher level of customisation, the one Arch offers me. The best distro for me, it seems it's been built with me in mind big_smile
And pacman is faaaaaaaast!


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#11 2007-07-21 16:14:26

peets
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Re: Loving Arch.

Are you allowed to say "vehemently" followed by a positive-connotationned-word, like, "I vehemently agree with everyhting that has been said here so far"? Or must I use words like "whole-heartedly", "passionately", "absolutely", etc.

Oh, wait, there's something I find that is quite wrong: shazeal, you have two girlfriends?!? And somehow you install linux distros on them? That sounds creepy. tongue

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#12 2007-07-21 17:52:12

Mikko777
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Re: Loving Arch.

peets wrote:

Oh, wait, there's something I find that is quite wrong: shazeal, you have two girlfriends?!? And somehow you install linux distros on them? That sounds creepy. tongue

first of all "vehemently" is that a real word?

Second, it sounds like shazeal is an "alpha male", which is a minimum requirement for having 2 girlfriends (or a wife and a lover) and install linux on them.

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#13 2007-07-21 19:13:16

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Re: Loving Arch.

big_smile I think that having 2 girlfriends is a minimum requirement for being an "alpha"-something, not vice-versa. shazeal clearly made a mistake when confusing girl-friend and his own computer - but if someone could actually explain how to install Linux on your girl-friend: Please write a tutorial for the wiki big_smile

PS: "Vehemently" is at least in my dictionary, so it seems to be proper english.

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#14 2007-07-21 22:03:25

ataraxia
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Re: Loving Arch.

tlaloc wrote:

big_smile I think that having 2 girlfriends is a minimum requirement for being an "alpha"-something, not vice-versa. shazeal clearly made a mistake when confusing girl-friend and his own computer - but if someone could actually explain how to install Linux on your girl-friend: Please write a tutorial for the wiki big_smile

It's probably something like flashing those Linux-based firmwares onto routers... We all know how much fun it is to flash people, right?

(And "vehemently" means "with strong feelings" or "passionately".)

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#15 2007-07-22 04:45:17

pain of salvation
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Re: Loving Arch.

"(And "vehemently" means "with strong feelings" or "passionately".)"

Yeah, that's it... "veementemente", in portuguese... tongue


By the way, I love Arch too! I am a law student here in Brazil, just like linux, so I'm no advanced user. Just read the arch wiki (a good one, but deserves some more atention) and installed it!

Used to use openSUSE (still like it a lot, 'cause it was my first distro) and Ubuntu before switch to Arch. Love its simplicity, cleaness... Pacman is awesome! And the community rocks too!

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#16 2007-07-22 05:29:46

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Re: Loving Arch.

Arch exemplifies many of the best ideas in the linux world.  The defining idea that a simple system, even though harder for a newby, will be ultimately simpler to maintain - is valid.  Ubuntu is great for people who do not know anything about linux, but Arch is better for people who do know something about linux.  ArchLinux might over-whelming for a nooby, but Ubuntu can be over-bearing for an experienced user.  I dont mean to beat up on Ubuntu, I use it and I like it, but I dont like doing things under the hood - on Arch everything I do is under the hood, and I like it.

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#17 2007-07-24 18:12:53

Cotton
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Re: Loving Arch.

NevroMance wrote:

... I was scared when I sat down to insall it, since I heard it was a distro for advanced users, something i don't feel that I am. But I wanted to learn more about Linux...

That's the best descriptions of Arch - a distro for people who want to learn about Linux.

It doesn't matter whether you're an advanced user or a newbie, there's always something new (and often exciting) to discover.

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#18 2007-07-24 19:24:22

quaaack
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Re: Loving Arch.

Arch isn't an advanced distro..  At least there's an installer.  Gentoo - they give you a command line and you take it from there

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#19 2007-07-25 18:23:17

PDExperiment626
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Re: Loving Arch.

ataraxia wrote:

It's probably something like flashing those Linux-based firmwares onto routers... We all know how much fun it is to flash people, right?

Or it could be like writing your thesis all over your wife big_smile. Maybe that's just me... tongue


... and for a time, it was good...

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#20 2007-07-25 18:32:37

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Re: Loving Arch.

I think there is a wiki entry which indicates that 2 girlfriends are actually a prerequisite to installing Arch.

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#21 2007-07-25 19:21:10

sobi
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Re: Loving Arch.

I want to disagree with opinion, that Arch is for advanced users. I think this is some kind of propaganda. Cause if user has opened eyes and knows how to use any browser + google and has no fear, then he can solve almost all problems. Just have opened eyes and think, arch won't bite smile And if my English isn't as perfect as arch - forgive me my mistakes wink

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#22 2007-07-26 07:42:51

elliott
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Re: Loving Arch.

sobi wrote:

I want to disagree with opinion, that Arch is for advanced users. I think this is some kind of propaganda. Cause if user has opened eyes and knows how to use any browser + google and has no fear, then he can solve almost all problems.

That is all it takes to be an advanced Linux user, Google and the ability to use it properly.

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#23 2007-08-12 06:19:25

shazeal
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Re: Loving Arch.

peets wrote:

Oh, wait, there's something I find that is quite wrong: shazeal, you have two girlfriends?!? And somehow you install linux distros on them? That sounds creepy. tongue

LMAO, I wish that were possible. Still loving arch btw smile

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#24 2007-08-13 14:31:38

Weeks
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Re: Loving Arch.

I see Arch as Slackware + dependency management + the rolling release mechanism (thus the latest packages). I've always loved Slackware but missed the up-to-date packages and automatic dependency management. I'd probably use Slackware if I owned a server though because I trust Pat Volderding's judgment over everyone else in the distribution community, not offense to the others though, they're just not Pat wink

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#25 2007-08-14 13:12:06

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Re: Loving Arch.

Weeks wrote:

I see Arch as Slackware + dependency management + the rolling release mechanism (thus the latest packages). I've always loved Slackware but missed the up-to-date packages and automatic dependency management. I'd probably use Slackware if I owned a server though because I trust Pat Volderding's judgment over everyone else in the distribution community, not offense to the others though, they're just not Pat wink

Interesting take. I too like Slackware for a few reasons:
1. It's fast
2. It's simple
3. The name is cool
..but Arch is just about as close to perfect as I have found. It just fits like a glove. cool

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