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nirvanix

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From: Saskatoon

Registered: 2005-01-31

Posts: 193

Distrowatch top 20!

Good to see that Arch has cracked the top 20 on distrowatch! That's quite something considering most newbs are warned off of the distro.

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hussam

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Registered: 2006-03-26

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Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Yep, it's the new "Don't Panic" release :-)

adlucem

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Registered: 2007-07-19

Posts: 28

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

That's quite something considering most newbs are warned off of the distro.

Plus, DW revolves largely around release announcements, and there is none with a rolling release system. Only the snapshot qualifies, and it has no public alpha/beta/RCs.

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doomed

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 7

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

this distro is not for absolute novices, that's why some ubuntos/mandrivas are more ranked. but its not bad

chaosgeisterchen

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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

I wouldn't want Arch to be that mainstream. We could not cope with the support queries arising this way.

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thedonvaughn

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From: Dallas, TX

Registered: 2007-06-07

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Re: Distrowatch top 20!

bleh distrowatch means absolutely nothing.  It counts web hits.

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Mardukas

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Registered: 2007-08-05

Posts: 121

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Under Data span choose Last 7 days - it's in top 10.

Misfit138

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From: USA

Registered: 2006-11-27

Posts: 4,189

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Currently #10, over past 7 days.
As was stated, distrowatch doesn't mean a whole helluva lot. Arch will always be #1 here, though.

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Cogar

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Registered: 2007-07-22

Posts: 43

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Good news.

Mailik

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From: France

Registered: 2007-05-31

Posts: 31

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

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nikron

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Registered: 2007-05-15

Posts: 130

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

I wouldn't want Arch to be that mainstream. We could not cope with the support queries arising this way.

Huh, I think perhaps too many people here take that opinion too rigidly.  Yeah, if there was a torrent of noobs, yeah it would suck bad.  But the community can still grow.  I mean it should still grow in the typical, noobs come, they get taught, they start contributing fashion.

Also, distrowatch's rankings are worthless, as pointed out above.

ezzetabi

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Registered: 2006-08-27

Posts: 947

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

We already user rivers of bit about the topic, but I disagree about the newbie unfriendliness of Arch.
Ok, if someone just bought a computer, giving him an empty hard disk and ab Arch CD can be a problem, but if you know how to navigate the filesystem, edit files and a little more Arch is a good choice. The installer is simply and logical.
Arch moreover helps you understand what are you doing. Instead distro as Ubuntu do not let understand they try to think for you and usually fails badly.

mridc

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 21

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Newbies aren't that bad

I'd regard Arch as extremely newbie-friendly. You run setup and it completely guides you through the install process. It even explains to you what the config files are there for. Looking at the configs, they have comments explaining each line they contain. The newbie-friendliness is all there, you just have to look at it. A system that lets the user stay a newbie forever instead of encouraging him to grow out of that newbie phase isn't particularly friendly to the newbie. But maybe that's just me *shrug*

Edit:
And I absolutely love the pun with the "Don't panic!" release. Even if Arch wouldn't be as good as it is, I'd still have to install it just because it features that "Don't panic!" line

Last edited by mridc (2007-08-09 07:53:34)

chaosgeisterchen

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From: Kefermarkt, Upper Austria

Registered: 2006-11-20

Posts: 550

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

I wouldn't want Arch to be that mainstream. We could not cope with the support queries arising this way.

Huh, I think perhaps too many people here take that opinion too rigidly.  Yeah, if there was a torrent of noobs, yeah it would suck bad.  But the community can still grow.  I mean it should still grow in the typical, noobs come, they get taught, they start contributing fashion.

Also, distrowatch's rankings are worthless, as pointed out above.

I'm not against newbies, as new users are important for Arch. But if we grow larger at a great scale we might not be able to cope with all the questions and lose our ability to answer any query fast and friendly. You might compare this board to the ubuntuforums, this is what I meant.

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FeatherMonkey

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Registered: 2007-02-26

Posts: 313

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Honestly I actually think Arch has one of the best approaches to newbies than many of the others. I see many posts with the usual suspects that a more seasoned Arch user just talks them through.

Where as on some other distro forums the ?'s get left hanging in the air, with the attitude RTFM. I'm actually quite shocked as from what I can see the user base in Arch as a rule seems at quite a high standard, with out the RTFM atitude.

I actually agree its not actually that difficult if you have a little savvy.
Heah growth just proves what a great distro this is

oli

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From: 127.0.0.1

Registered: 2006-02-07

Posts: 164

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Re: Distrowatch top 20!

I wouldn't want Arch to be that mainstream. We could not cope with the support queries arising this way.

Huh, I think perhaps too many people here take that opinion too rigidly.  Yeah, if there was a torrent of noobs, yeah it would suck bad.  But the community can still grow.  I mean it should still grow in the typical, noobs come, they get taught, they start contributing fashion.

Also, distrowatch's rankings are worthless, as pointed out above.

I'm not against newbies, as new users are important for Arch. But if we grow larger at a great scale we might not be able to cope with all the questions and lose our ability to answer any query fast and friendly. You might compare this board to the ubuntuforums, this is what I meant.

Or to Gentoo, big and helpful

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Misfit138

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From: USA

Registered: 2006-11-27

Posts: 4,189

Re: Distrowatch top 20!

Or to Gentoo, big and helpful

There are distros I refuse to use, simply on principle. Certain forums have an established atmosphere of elitist, ego-maniacal and hostile culture. Why would I subject myself to such a harsh, oppressive environment of snobs who are more interested in their condescending wit than actually helping someone run their distro?

One of the strong points of Arch, in addition to the quality of the distro, is the quality of the community. I applaud this community for all the help it has given me and others, and for the distro itself. It is one of the few distros where I have actually been answered personally by devs, who are helpful and approachable.

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