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patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

"don't panic" gnome installation

hello, i would like to install archlinux "Don't panic", but first i want to know how I can install gnome desktop environment.
I've installed it in "Voodoo" without any problems, but in "Duke" i have many problems, for example. when i logged in with gdm, a message said that something about /dev/null was missing and gnome won't start, etc..
I followed this instructions: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Gnome but i can't install it.
Please, write me if you have an answer,

jimmarch

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Registered: 2007-08-07

Posts: 27

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

Well I just did Gnome yesterday the moment I installed Arch for the first time ever (Don't Panic).

The sole glitch I had was gdm not being automatically added to the daemons list in rc.conf but that was a quick fix.  Without gdm I got this weird mash-up of some ancient tiled window manager and Gnome...still actually usable that way, but annoying .  But putting gdm in set that right in seconds.

Gnome 1.18.3 is now working pretty damn good.  My sole remaining glitch involves automounting USB disks/flash not working but manual mount does work and I can live with that until I sort it all out.  See the thread I started over in newbieland .

I'd say Don't Panic and Gnome get along pretty well.  If I could get this far, anybody could...I have about a year's Linux experience, not a coder and most of that year was in Ubuntu, the rest in Fedora and a couple other "newbie friendly" distros.  Jumping to Arch, I feel like I've been dabbling in Linux (despite not booting Windows in about a year now) and have switched to "the hardcore $hit" .  It's like...if Ubuntu is smokin' weed, then Arch is like heroin straight to the vein, ya know?   It's like there's Linux, and then there -=LIINUXXX!=-...

pressh

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Registered: 2005-08-14

Posts: 1,719

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

@patriciomacadden: It should just work if you follow the wiki. If you come to any problems, post them so we can figure out what is going wrong.

@jimmarch: Do you have dbus/hal running and is your user in the storage group?

tadek

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Registered: 2007-07-29

Posts: 2

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

I have spent several hours on gnome without any success. It looks like conflict with some libraries (gtk?). When I start session first I have a nice logo display of NVIDIA, then kind of bare desktop opens which does not respond to mouse. Then Bug Buddy demands e-mail. When I look to /var/log/Xorg.0.log there are no errors but some warnings. How can I figure out what is wrong?

tom5760

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From: Philadelphia, PA, USA

Registered: 2006-02-05

Posts: 283

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Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

Try posting your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and your /var/log/Xorg.0.log so we can see the warnings.

patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

I can't post those files because i've not installed archlinux don't panic yet. i've installed archlinux duke before but when i tried to install gnome i have many problems. One of them was that the /dev/null device was missing and without it gnome can't start, the strange thing is that /dev/null device was present in my filesystem.
That is why i would like to know how to install gnome, because following the wiki I can't install gnome since Duke was released (in Voodoo the wiki's howto was very useful).

PD: I'm from Argentina, so maybe my English isn't good.

kishd

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Registered: 2006-06-14

Posts: 401

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

Are you using Arch now or are you going to install Arch on your machine? Arch is a rolling release system and it is not necessary to re-install with each new release of the install iso.

Gnome was moved from /opt to /usr and you may have some configuration files in your home directory still pointing to the /opt/gnome directory.

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scarecrow

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Registered: 2004-11-18

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Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

If the initial Gnome or XFCE desktop is unresponsive, then you forgot to put "something" in your /etc/hosts file...

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patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

kishd: i'm going to install arch, but before i want to solve that problem with gnome. I know that it is not necessary to re-install it with each new release and that gnome was moved from /opt to /usr, that happened since Voodoo i think. When that happened I've got arch installed and that didn't affected my system.

kishd

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Registered: 2006-06-14

Posts: 401

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

patriciomacadden,  a number of gnome packages have been updated I think you should just give it a try and see what happens. I just installed gnome now to see if there are any problems. My system worked fine. I start gnome with the following line in my .xinitrc 

exec dbus-launch --auto-syntax --exit-with-session gnome-session

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patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

well, i've just installed archlinux, but i still can't install gnome correctly.

In /var/log/errors:

Aug 10 10:19:54 dharma 8139cp 0000:02:05.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip
Aug 10 10:19:54 dharma 8139cp 0000:02:05.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead.
Aug 10 10:19:54 dharma intel_rng: FWH not detected
Aug 10 10:19:54 dharma usb 1-1: device not accepting address 2, error -71
Aug 10 11:34:35 gconfd (patricio-8282): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed
Aug 10 11:34:35 gconfd (patricio-8284): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed
Aug 10 11:37:25 dharma 8139cp 0000:02:05.0: This (id 10ec:8139 rev 10) is not an 8139C+ compatible chip
Aug 10 11:37:25 dharma 8139cp 0000:02:05.0: Try the "8139too" driver instead
Aug 10 11:37:25 dharma intel_rng: FWH not detected
Aug 10 11:37:36 dharma gdm[5335]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:37:36 dharma gdm[5335]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:37:45 dharma gdm[5335]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:37:45 dharma gdm[5335]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:42:30 gconfd (patricio-5552): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed
Aug 10 11:42:30 gconfd (patricio-5554): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed
Aug 10 11:43:58 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:43:58 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:44:06 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:44:06 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:44:12 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:44:12 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:44:24 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 0)
Aug 10 11:44:24 dharma gdm[5581]: failsafe dialog failed (inhibitions: 0 1)
Aug 10 11:45:57 gconfd (patricio-5740): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed
Aug 10 11:45:57 gconfd (patricio-5742): I can't write to '/tmp/orbit-patricio', ORB init failed

So, gdm and gnome don't work correctly...

I hope someone can help me, thanks.

kishd

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Registered: 2006-06-14

Posts: 401

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

From looking at your log file I would suggest you try disabling the 8139cp module in rc.conf and loading the 8139too driver
rc.conf:
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MODULES=(!8139cp 8139too ....etc)
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also check your /etc/hosts file to see that your hostname does not replace localhost but is appended

/etc/hosts
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127.0.0.1        localhost.localdomain    localhost  your_machine_name

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EDIT
Check that dbus is launched at startup from rc.conf

Last edited by kishd (2007-08-10 15:22:33)

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patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

thanks, i'll try that. now, i have another problem, i've upgraded my system (with pacman -Syu) and i can't start arch. Init hang up when starts network. i'll try to fix it. thanks.

patriciomacadden

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Registered: 2007-08-08

Posts: 11

Re: "don't panic" gnome installation

well, it's me again, but now from gnome . The problem in the startup was solved, for some strange reason, when i modified in rc.conf the network section setting eth1="dhcp", the system didn't start.
Thanks everybody.