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Eliteforce · 2007-08-12 17:37:37

hey,

since I'm a pedantic guy I just wondered about the right spelling of Arch Linux, or was it archlinux (like in the logo) or Archlinux (like in the 2007.08 release announcement), or ArchLinux (wiki doesn't like spaces i guess). Looks like Arch Linux is the right one.

dunno if someone cares about this at all, but hey, I'm bored!

ozar · 2007-08-12 18:21:31

Either way works fine for me.

aythun · 2007-08-14 08:52:07

I prefer Arch Linux. ArchLinux disagrees with my "don't capitalize letters mid-word" philosophy and Archlinux just bugs me. Most of the time I'll just say "Arch," however.

ezzetabi · 2007-08-14 10:33:07

I always though `archlinux' was the correct way. But we should ask Judd Vinet. He is the only one who can give the Answer.

shining · 2007-08-14 10:43:02

This interview : http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resour … rview-arch
would let think that long name is "Arch Linux" and short name is "Arch"

wolfi · 2007-08-14 15:08:26

In german i use "Arsch" or "Arschlinux" (Arsch means ass in german and is pronouced very similar to english "Arch" ), to foreign ppl i just use "Arch".

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Sigi · 2007-08-14 16:22:23

wolfi wrote:

In german i use "Arsch" or "Arschlinux" (Arsch means ass in german and is pronouced very similar to english "Arch" ), to foreign ppl i just use "Arch".

That's the only thing that still bugs me after nearly 3 years of using "Arsch" - the way people look at you when you start talking about "ass linux"

mr.MikyMaus · 2007-08-16 10:57:04

I'm Czech, so I have Arch read as, well, it's hard to say - I don't know if there is such phone in English as we have for "ch". But it's similar to "ch" in German "Buch" or French "J" in "Javier".

And I'm not even sure if the "Arch" should be read ask "march" or as "ark"..? I prefer the "ark" version, but mostly I use the Czech version of "ch"

-miky

arooaroo · 2007-08-16 11:00:08

It's definitely not "ark". This has been clarified by Judd.

Eliteforce · 2007-08-16 16:27:35

hehe i remember the ark linux logo on the arch linux website on april, 1st. that was fun

ekerazha · 2007-08-16 17:13:46

I call it "Arch", with "ch" like in "archer". However I used to call it "ark" because in Italian the "ch" sounds as "k".

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ezzetabi · 2007-08-16 20:36:44

I am Italian too, but I always said `arch' as in `archer' since Arch Linux make me think to 'Arci Linux' like 'Great Linux' in Italian. (e.g., arcivescovo...)

aye · 2007-08-16 21:45:03

On a side note.. I was just thinking today (yeah, bored @ work) what does "Arch" mean anyway?
I've seen "arch" used as short for "architecture", but that would be rather weird if I guessed right and the distro's name meant "Architecture Linux"

chaosgeisterchen · 2007-08-16 22:20:39

Arch is spelled like Archer, having read that statement somewhere way ago, maybe even in the wiki.

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ezzetabi · 2007-08-17 07:59:07

@aye
Read the Merriam-Webster's meaning of arch-, meaning (2).
This is also the reason I think archlinux is the most reasonable spelling (but I obery and use to the official form, of course).

Misfit138 · 2007-08-17 13:50:14

ezzetabi wrote:

@aye
Read the Merriam-Webster's meaning of arch-, meaning (2).
This is also the reason I think archlinux is the most reasonable spelling (but I obery and use to the official form, of course).

I agree.
I have been contributing to the beginner's guide in the wiki quite extensively, and I've been spelling it as "Archlinux"...but someone went in and changed every single instance of it to "Arch Linux".
On every page of the site, though, I am staring at "Archlinux" at the top left side of my screen....so I just don't know.
But I do prefer "Archlinux", for the reason you stated.

retsaw · 2007-08-17 14:22:06

For that definition to apply you'd need a hyphen between arch and linux, wouldn't you? (someone correct me if I'm wrong)

I would interpret the logo in the top left corner, to have Arch Linux as seperate words, since Arch is in a bold font and Linux isn't.

But for something a little less subjective, go to www.archlinux.org and look at the spelling used.

Personally I prefer Arch Linux.

aythun · 2007-08-17 15:22:41

The problem with "Archlinux" is that Linux is a proper noun. You can still call it Arch Linux and have all the implications of the word "arch" without stripping Linux of its capital letter.

ezzetabi · 2007-08-17 15:41:14

@retsaw
I do not want to appear harsh... but did you ever used a dictionary in your life? All prefixes appears with the hyphen in the end. It is a way to say that the word is not complete and that it gives some meaning to the next part, like hydr- is the first part of words about water (e.g., hydroelectric) or hydrogen...

Eliteforce · 2007-08-17 22:21:03

ezzetabi wrote:

@retsaw
I do not want to appear harsh... but did you ever used a dictionary in your life? All prefixes appears with the hyphen in the end. It is a way to say that the word is not complete and that it gives some meaning to the next part, like hydr- is the first part of words about water (e.g., hydroelectric) or hydrogen...

well who said that arch is a prefix? its a noun in my eyes.

retsaw · 2007-08-17 22:39:39

If you didn't want to appear harsh, then the comment about having used a dictionary was unnecessary. Thank you for correcting me anyway.

ezzetabi · 2007-08-18 07:04:50

@Eliteforce... Reading the whole thread may help.
I thought archlinux was the better spelling since it would mean something like `the distro that most fully embodying the qualities of Linux.'
Instead `Arch' (capitalized), according to M-W, is just an abbreviation that means archbishop. In this case `Arch Linux' would be the archbishop called Linux...
Similarly `arch' (not capitalized) is some kind of archway or curved structure, so `arch linux' would be something like an archway over linux... Both cases are less intriguing to me.

@retsaw you are getting wrong I am afraid. If I really wanted being harsh (and I did not) I had to say; `Go learn using a dictionary.' and nothing more.
Exactly as some people like using RTFM without explaining a word.

iphitus · 2007-08-18 07:14:14

rtfm

Homepage, rc.sysinit (runs first at boot), Pacman man page, interviews with judd, distrowatch and Arch release announcements (http://distrowatch.com/index.php?distribution=arch) -- all say Arch Linux.

You can places where it is different, but they'd undoubtedly be 'secondary' to one of the above more official sources.

James

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ezzetabi · 2007-08-18 09:06:24

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