Not a big deal BUT...

ConnorBehan · 2007-09-05 16:41:56

This may seem like its a thread for issues I need help with... but it really isn't a big deal so I decided not to put it in one of the forums where dilligent hackers go to offer their help to people who are truly stuck. Hopefully it will become more of a sharing thread so people can post little tiny problems that they can easily get around but never fully solve. Maybe some expertise in solving them can come in as well but I'm not expecting it. Get the idea? Here's my list:

XFCE's shutdown freezes alot. About half the time when I use the graphical shutdown helper, it kills X, but then goes to a blank screen where I have to cut the power myself. The alternative is to simply type "poweroff" in the console. I don't know what commands actually get executed in the graphical shutdown menu.

When I first got X, startx wouldn't load a window manager, becuase xinitrc didn't have the line for loading a window manager (duh). So I got twm and put "twm &" in xinitrc and startx then was able to load twm. Since getting XFCE4, I have replaced that line with xfce4-session or exec xfce4-session in every single file on my system named xinitrc but still it loads twm instead of xfce4. Maybe it's in some cache I don't know about so it takes precedence. The solution is simply saying startxfce4 instead of startx.

I use RPM for a few packages that Arch lacks but I always have to do --nodeps. Otherwise it says I don't have stuff like /bin/sh even though I clearly do. I can understand RPM not detecting Arch packages but simple files? Makes no sense.

Well post your tiny little problems that don't really matter... hopefully this will end up being constructive.

harlekin · 2007-09-05 17:17:23

Well, I don't have tiny problems. Just greater problems, I can get around easily, though it's still somehow annoying. But I don't want to pollute this thread with that.

But I like the idea. Kinda looking forward reading where this goes. (:

Unfortunately I don't have an answer to you problems. .xinitrc won't be cached instead of being evaluated by `startx`.

If you *have* to use rpms, create a PKGBUILD anyway and use rpmextract or something. This is a cleaner way than your --no-deps variant.

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ConnorBehan · 2007-09-05 20:26:40

Thanks, I might create some PKGBUILDs for open source programs in the future... but a few of these RPMs were for closed source programs like the lightscribe drivers and software from Lacie. There isn't any way to make a PKGBUILD for that is there?

Sigi · 2007-09-05 21:00:00

You are free to make PKGBUILDs for closed source software as long as you're not going to publish them on the AUR.

pelle.k · 2007-09-05 21:10:26

If you're wondering about if it's at all possible to do this, then yes.

The rpm is, just like a pkg.tar.gz, only an archived bunch of files. When you install packages with "pacman -S" you install binary blobs too, in a sense. The difference being that the source _is_ available in some form for most of those apps. But as i said, it's all binary blobs in the end.

If you would unpack an rpm you would probably find "control" files in the package (i've never dabbled with rpm:s so i don't know what to call them), and there it should be in clear text what dependencies this package has. Most of the time, the config files and binaries are already in some sort of folder hierarchy matching a fedora/mandrake/whatever system.

F · 2007-09-06 01:06:50

wmii crashes whenever I try to shut it down or hit Alt-F1 (i have to hit Alt-F2, then goto Alt-F1, then kill X/wmii).

I don't want to have to use ndiswrapper on my wifi card (Broadcom Corporation BCM94311MCG wlan mini-PCI (rev 01))

...anndddd, thats about it, really.

ConnorBehan · 2007-09-08 22:24:50

Oh I have another one... when I first set my clock in rc.conf, it was 4 hours behind with UTC and localtime. The solution was simply lying about my timezone and setting it 4 hours ahead to compensate.

byte · 2007-09-09 04:08:33

Sigi wrote:

You are free to make PKGBUILDs for closed source software as long as you're not going to publish them on the AUR.

Err, what? I'd take that as "as long you're not going to let them slip into [community] or other binary repos". AUR is fine for me.

shining · 2007-09-09 09:05:49

byte wrote:

Sigi wrote:
You are free to make PKGBUILDs for closed source software as long as you're not going to publish them on the AUR.
Err, what? I'd take that as "as long you're not going to let them slip into [community] or other binary repos". AUR is fine for me.

What about opera in extra and skype in community ?

ezzetabi · 2007-09-09 09:16:59

To clarify:
You can make PKGBUILD of closed source programs and post them in the AUR and (who knows) seeing them in the community repo later if you do not violate any licence.

An other example `utorrent.'

Sigi · 2007-09-09 10:12:49

ezzetabi wrote:

To clarify:
You can make PKGBUILD of closed source programs and post them in the AUR and (who knows) seeing them in the community repo later if you do not violate any licence.
An other example `utorrent.'

Sorry, my statement above was missleading. I meant that some licences don't allow you to distribute the software in any way and that putting such things on a repo isn't allowed - AUR is fine...

ConnorBehan · 2007-09-10 23:46:06

ConnorBehan wrote:

like the lightscribe drivers and software from Lacie.

Wow that's already in the AUR, I didn't even notice that... it's on the front page too.

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