New to Arch, a few questions..

slew · 2007-10-03 17:10:52

Hello all,

After successfully installing Arch Linux following the Beginners Guide I was able to log into Gnome. Right off the bat I have a few questions:

Usually I'm able to right click the clock and change the time. I am not able to do this either as root or a user. Do I need to turn a switch on to change the time if I need to?

Sound is not working. I have run alsaconf and it automagically found my card. I go to the desktop and right click the sound icon and I get a message saying "You either do not have the correct Gstreamer plug-in or your sound card is not configured." Which is the "right" Gstreamer plug-in?

Is there a really good Pacman gui front end? I've tried the gtkpacman but was unimpressed.

I was not able to find the answers to these specific questions within the Arch Linux Forums, so I thought I'd ask.

Thanks!

lucke · 2007-10-03 17:48:26

I don't use Gnome, so can't help you much here - other that you can set your time using "date" command (a bit wicked syntax) or using ntp (e.g. ntpdate pool.ntp.org), granted you have a timezone set properly in rc.conf.

Have you added yourself to "audio" group (gpasswd -a user group)? Try running aplay filename (alsa-utils package) to check whether sound works. Generally, if you have module autoloading set in rc.conf, you needn't play with alsaconf. There's a number of gstreamer plugins available, for playing different formats.

jacman is regarded as one of the best pacman frontends, AFAIK.

kensai · 2007-10-03 17:57:14

First of all Welcome!

Well, you cannot change the clock via GNOME clock applets change time, since gnome-system-tools isn't installed, it does not support Arch yet, I believe if a miracle occurs somebody will take a look at this, but it isn't a great of a problem since you can use the date command or the openntpd daemon.

For sound edit /etc/group and add your user name to the audio group there. I believe that might be the problem when GNOME jumps saying that.

And as suggested by lucke, use jacman, is the only good solution that I know of, still pacman is so much more powerful on command line.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-03 19:19:24

After adding your user to the audio group, remember to run alsamixer, unmute the master and pcm channels, and adjust volume up to 70-90.

Thrillhouse · 2007-10-03 19:30:02

I think lucke may have touched on this in his post but it might not have been made abundantly clear: be sure to add alsa as a daemon in rc.conf.

slew · 2007-10-03 22:23:05

Hi everybody,

Thanks for your suggestions! The sound is working well!

Now for the next issue that has just popped up:

When I insert a DVD I made with K3B that contains my back-up data, I get this error:

Cannot mount volume.
Error org.freedesktop.DBus.error.AccessDenied.

Pressing the "Details >" button displays:

A security policy in place prevents this sender from sending this message to this recipient, see message bus configuration file (rejected message had interface "org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Volume" member "Mount" error name "(unset)" destination "org.freedesktop.Hal")

My /etc/group says i'm part of the optical group:

root::0:root
bin::1:root,bin,daemon
daemon::2:root,bin,daemon
sys::3:root,bin
adm::4:root,daemon
tty::5:
disk::6:root
lp::7:daemon
mem::8:
kmem::9:
wheel::10:root
ftp::11:
mail::12:
log::19:root
smmsp::25:
games::50:
network:x:90:
video:x:91:
audio::92:slew
optical::93:hal
floppy:x:94:hal
storage:x:95:hal
power:x:98:
nobody::99:
users::100:
slocate:x:21:
dbus:x:81:
gdm:x:101:
hal:x:82:
avahi:x:84:

My /etc/fstab:

# 
# /etc/fstab: static file system information
#
# <file system>        <dir>         <type>    <options>          <dump> <pass>
none                   /dev/pts      devpts    defaults            0      0
none                   /dev/shm      tmpfs     defaults            0      0


/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom   iso9660   ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1   iso9660   ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
/dev/dvd /mnt/dvd   udf   ro,user,noauto,unhide   0      0
/dev/sda1 /boot ext2 defaults 0 1
/dev/sda2 swap swap defaults 0 0
/dev/sda3 / reiserfs defaults 0 1
/dev/sda4 /home reiserfs defaults 0 1

I only have three drives, one cdrw, one dvdrw and the hard drive.
Does anyone have any suggestions for helping me get my back-up data back up on my drive?
Thanks so much!

Last edited by slew (2007-10-03 22:26:42)

fwojciec · 2007-10-03 22:40:55

Comment out all cdrom/dvd references from fstab and just let hal handle mounting/unmounting.

slew · 2007-10-03 23:33:48

fwojciec wrote:

Comment out all cdrom/dvd references from fstab and just let hal handle mounting/unmounting.

Did that, restarted, inserted the data dvd and got the same message.

Please pardon my newbness, but I've never seen this error before.

Thanks!

ralvez · 2007-10-03 23:42:29

Are you running hal? If you are not type '/etc/rc.d/hal start' to start it and make sure you add it to '/etc/rc.conf' in the DAEMONS line.
After hal is running tray again.
Hope this helps.
BTW ... welcome to Arch.

R

lucke · 2007-10-03 23:44:01

Do you have hal daemon running? That is, placed in rc.conf.

I think I saw this problem earlier on the forums, you might search a bit. It might be Gnome specific and, as specified earlier, I'm not a Gnome person ;-) That way or another, until you figure what's wrong with that, just readd those lines to fstab, change filesystem next to /dev/dvd to "auto" (instead of udf) and run "mount /dev/dvd" in console.

fwojciec · 2007-10-03 23:44:59

Also - your user should not be in "hal" and "dbus" groups, though I'm not sure it'll help with your specific problem. You are starting hal and dbus daemons though, right?

Doehni · 2007-10-03 23:49:02

Do you have fam daemon installed and in rc.conf? Gnome and KDE like multimedia better with it.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-04 00:58:30

Are you in the groups: storage, disk, optical?

slew · 2007-10-04 01:44:33

Here is my /etc/rc.conf

# /etc/rc.conf - Main Configuration for Arch Linux
#

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# LOCALIZATION
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# LOCALE: available languages can be listed with the 'locale -a' command
# HARDWARECLOCK: set to "UTC" or "localtime"
# TIMEZONE: timezones are found in /usr/share/zoneinfo
# KEYMAP: keymaps are found in /usr/share/kbd/keymaps
# CONSOLEFONT: found in /usr/share/kbd/consolefonts (only needed for non-US)
# CONSOLEMAP: found in /usr/share/kbd/consoletrans
# USECOLOR: use ANSI color sequences in startup messages
#
LOCALE="en_US.utf8"
HARDWARECLOCK="localtime"
TIMEZONE="US/Eastern"
KEYMAP="us"
CONSOLEFONT=
CONSOLEMAP=
USECOLOR="yes"

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# HARDWARE
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Scan hardware and load required modules at bootup
MOD_AUTOLOAD="yes"
# Module Blacklist - modules in this list will never be loaded by udev
MOD_BLACKLIST=()
#
# Modules to load at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a module with a ! to blacklist it
#
MODULES=(nvidia mii slhc via-rhine ac97_bus snd-mixer-oss snd-pcm-oss snd-seq-oss snd-seq-device snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-page-alloc snd-pcm snd-rawmidi snd-timer snd snd-mpu401-uart snd-ac97-codec snd-via82xx soundcore)
# Scan for LVM volume groups at startup, required if you use LVM
USELVM="no"

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# NETWORKING
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
HOSTNAME="pimpnet"
#
# Use 'ifconfig -a' or 'ls /sys/class/net/' to see all available
# interfaces.
#
# Interfaces to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each interface then list in INTERFACES
#   - prefix an entry in INTERFACES with a ! to disable it
#   - no hyphens in your interface names - Bash doesn't like it
#
# Note: to use DHCP, set your interface to be "dhcp" (eth0="dhcp")
#
lo="lo 127.0.0.1"
eth0="dhcp"
INTERFACES=(lo eth0)
#
# Routes to start at boot-up (in this order)
# Declare each route then list in ROUTES
#   - prefix an entry in ROUTES with a ! to disable it
#
gateway="default gw 192.168.0.1"
ROUTES=(!gateway)
#
# Enable these network profiles at boot-up.  These are only useful
# if you happen to need multiple network configurations (ie, laptop users)
#   - set to 'menu' to present a menu during boot-up (dialog package required)
#   - prefix an entry with a ! to disable it
#
# Network profiles are found in /etc/network-profiles
#
#NET_PROFILES=(main)

#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
# DAEMONS
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Daemons to start at boot-up (in this order)
#   - prefix a daemon with a ! to disable it
#   - prefix a daemon with a @ to start it up in the background
#
DAEMONS=(syslog-ng network netfs crond ntp alsa hal fam gdm)


# End of file

Misfit, after looking through my previous post of my /etc/group I noticed that no, I'm not a part of those groups.
Is this the correct syntax?

disk::6:root:slew

Thanks to everyone for your help and suggestions!
So far, the Arch community is the best!

Last edited by slew (2007-10-04 01:47:53)

pjeremy · 2007-10-04 02:01:02

the syntax is optical::93:hal,slew
What do you need netfs for?
Misfit, why would he need disk?

slew · 2007-10-04 02:11:56

pjeremy wrote:

the syntax is optical::93:hal,slew
What do you need netfs for?
Misfit, why would he need disk?

Thanks for the correct syntax.

The netfs was placed there during setup. I followed the Arch Linux Beginners Guide step-by-step so I left netfs there by default.

I will remove it if its generally not needed for regular user type stuff.

I will make the update to /etc/group and post the results.

Thanks again!

slew · 2007-10-04 02:22:04

Hi everybody,

That worked. Thanks to everyone for your quick and accurate help!

Indeed, while I was trying to find the answers to these questions new posts would come in with the answers I need.

Thanks again, and I know I will love Arch Linux.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-04 02:23:52

pjeremy wrote:

the syntax is optical::93:hal,slew
What do you need netfs for?
Misfit, why would he need disk?

If he wants to use hal in conjunction with usb thumbdrives/icons on KDE desktop..
Without being in the disk group, I am unable to eject (safely remove) thumbdrives, without an error.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-04 02:33:46

slew wrote:

I followed the Arch Linux Beginners Guide step-by-step......

I think if you had followed it step-by-step, you would have added your user to the correct groups!

pjeremy · 2007-10-04 02:52:37

Thanks Misfit, completely forgot thumbdrives, since I don't have any.

hussam · 2007-10-04 03:10:24

Misfit138, adding yourself to 'disk' group gives you root access to your hard disk which is bad.

Matt3o · 2007-10-04 07:59:12

Misfit138 wrote:

I think if you had followed it step-by-step, you would have added your user to the correct groups!

the beginners' guide suggests to add the first user to camera and scanner groups that at that point of the installation are not yet present. So usemod returns an error but one could think that the other groups were added anyway, instead you have to rerun usermod without those groups. I think it could be misleading for a beginner.

Misfit138 · 2007-10-04 12:13:24

Matt3o wrote:

Misfit138 wrote:
I think if you had followed it step-by-step, you would have added your user to the correct groups!
the beginners' guide suggests to add the first user to camera and scanner groups that at that point of the installation are not yet present. So usemod returns an error but one could think that the other groups were added anyway, instead you have to rerun usermod without those groups. I think it could be misleading for a beginner.

Thanks for pointing this out. I will fix it now.
EDIT:Removed groups that do not exist after installation.

Last edited by Misfit138 (2007-10-04 12:24:50)

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