Gnome 2.20?

fede · 2007-09-25 19:46:24

Hello,

I just installed arch64 besides my kde i686 main distro to try out Gnome 2.20, and it seems that only gnome 2.18 is available for arch64; is this correct? If so, will 2.20 appear anytime soon for arch64?

In any case, I'm amazed at the speed of gnome 2.18, last time I've used it, it seemed slower than KDE, and now it doesn't at all (subjectively speaking, of course). Or perhaps it is because I'm comparing i686 to x86_64? Well... I don't want to start a flame thread, I realize I have just made two sensitive remarks...

Thanks!

muczyjoe · 2007-09-25 19:59:42

It will be available in [testing] repo, but as long as i see, there isn't any 2.20 gnome there yet...

ise · 2007-09-26 06:01:30

fede wrote:

I just installed arch64 besides my kde i686 main distro to try out Gnome 2.20, and it seems that only gnome 2.18 is available for arch64; is this correct? If so, will 2.20 appear anytime soon for arch64?

That's correct. I have finished gnome 2.20 for arch64 yesterday. Maybe I will upload it to testing today or tomorrow for arch64.

Daniel

ise · 2007-09-26 17:00:58

Gnome 2.20 is now available for x86_64 in testing repo. Wait until your mirror has synced the packages.

Daniel

fede · 2007-09-28 02:29:47

Thanks!

wantilles · 2007-10-04 21:08:19

ise wrote:

Gnome 2.20 is now available for x86_64 in testing repo. Wait until your mirror has synced the packages.

I just gave it a try.

The problem is that the application menus are all gone apart from very few entries.

And also from the System -> Preferences Menu only a single entry is present so virtually I cannot make any adjustments. Menu editor is missing, font settings are missing, theme settings are missing, everything.

Also when I run "gnome-control-center" I get a message box saying "Failure loading - gnomecc.menu".

I do not remember the script or executable names of the menu-editor to run it directly.

So unless I find a way to re-build my Applications and Preferences Menus (why were they demolished in the first place), I will have to revert back to my Gnome 2.18 backed up system, because right now my Linux desktop is non-productive.

fede · 2007-10-04 22:29:33

The menu editor is called "alacarte"

JGC · 2007-10-05 09:28:19

Be sure to have libx11 from testing if you're also using xproto from testing. You're missing /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh.

wantilles · 2007-10-05 09:49:46

JGC wrote:

Be sure to have libx11 from testing if you're also using xproto from testing. You're missing /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh.

I did have libx11 from testing because I already had compiz-fusion-git installed (it was not running at the moment).

And yes, when libx11 was installed, it did put its new /etc/profile.d/xorg.sh in place.

wantilles · 2007-10-05 14:33:13

The same thing with the non-populated Preferences and Applications Menu happens when a new user is created and the first login in Gnome occurs.

Now, this is serious and has to be fixed.

I spent the last hour painstakingly recreating the Preference Menu from scratch (I had kept the previous entries and their equivalent commands from Gnome 2.18 in a text file) -> Entry Name, Command to run, and Icon.

And now I have to do the same with all my applications.

Is there any way to do this automatically?

PS: By the way, Alacarte cannot edit the properties for the program groups (directories) and since the icons on those have taken the default gnome folder icon too, where exactly is the text config file for these so that I can change them once by hand?

JGC · 2007-10-06 10:06:39

It looks like you're missing either the menu descriptions from gnome-menus, or somehow /usr/share and /etc/xdg are not in your XDG_* variables.

wantilles · 2007-10-06 10:44:01

JGC wrote:

It looks like you're missing either the menu descriptions from gnome-menus...

How can I investigate this?

JGC wrote:

...or somehow /usr/share and /etc/xdg are not in your XDG_* variables.

In which configuration file are these variables declared?

I did find all the *.desktop files in /usr/share/applications (I assume where they are supposed to be).

However, in ~/.config/menus/settings.menu there is a line in the beginning:

<MergeFile type="parent">/opt/gnome/etc/xdg/menus/settings.menu</MergeFile>

But when I go into /opt/gnome/etc the xdg directory does not even exist at all.

--- SUPPLEMENTAL ---

Also, right now I have [testing] declared first in my pacman.conf.

But I do not like that because I get everything from there.

What I want, is to get from [testing] only libx11, nvidia, nvidia-utils and all the Gnome 2.20 packages.

Last edited by wantilles (2007-10-06 12:48:09)

iphitus · 2007-10-06 12:06:44

That might be the problem, gnome moved out of opt. Change /opt/gnome/ to /usr/

James

wantilles · 2007-10-06 12:52:48

iphitus wrote:

That might be the problem, gnome moved out of opt. Change /opt/gnome/ to /usr/

There is no xdg directory there either.

The only xdg directory in my system is in /etc/.

So I'll change the entry to that, and see how it goes.

wantilles · 2007-10-06 13:10:44

Nothing changed on the menus.

Also I would like to report another Gnome 2.20 bug.

On startup, Gnome keyboard preferences does not load the user's previous settings.

For example, I always have US & Greece Extended keyboard layouts selected, Ctrl+Shift Toggle, and add the Euro sign to the "E" key.

If I open keyboard keyboard preferences, the GUI shows them activated.

However, in reality they are not as if I click on the Keyboard Indicator Panel Applet or I use my toggle key combination, the layout does not change.

Of course, there is a possibility that all these are related to the new [testing] Xorg server as well.

Is there a thread discussing the new [testing] Xorg server?

Because the following bug has to be relevant. I do not think it has to do with Gnome.

Keyboard keys CapsLock, NumLock, and ScrollLock do work as intended.

However, their status LEDs on the keyboard never change to reflect their true status at any given time.

fede · 2007-10-06 13:24:16

Wantilles,

I have the same keyboard problem and I am using gnome 2.18, with testing xorg-server, so I guess it must be xorg-related.

wantilles · 2007-10-06 13:43:32

fede wrote:

Wantilles,
I have the same keyboard problem and I am using gnome 2.18, with testing xorg-server, so I guess it must be xorg-related.

That's good news because it seems it is not Gnome related.

Now if I could find a way to get only Gnome from [testing], but not the new Xorg?

I will need a full list of the Gnome 2.20 packages for that, so that I can copy their directories from the [testing] abs to my local repository.

In that way, I will be able to find out if the Gnome Keyboard Layout Preferences ignoring the user's settings at boot-up, is a Gnome 2.20 problem, or it is related again to the new Xorg server.

ise · 2007-10-06 14:06:52

wantilles wrote:

Now if I could find a way to get only Gnome from [testing], but not the new Xorg?

You can use

pacman -S testing/gnome-desktop testing/nautilus

I think through the dependencies it would install all the packages. Or try a

pacman -S testing/gnome

Dont know, if the last one works.

wantilles · 2007-10-06 16:43:14

ise wrote:

wantilles wrote:
Now if I could find a way to get only Gnome from [testing], but not the new Xorg?
You can use
pacman -S testing/gnome-desktop testing/nautilus
I think through the dependencies it would install all the packages. Or try a
pacman -S testing/gnome
Dont know, if the last one works.

The last for sure does not work.

I had tried it already:

pacman -S testing/gnome

error: 'testing/gnome': not found in sync db

It seems that the package-group gnome is not declared in [testing] -> the [testing] packages are not grouped together.

As for your first suggestion, it does not work either.

It only pulls about 8 or 9 packages.

The whole Gnome desktop is close to a hundred packages.

wantilles · 2007-10-06 19:24:59

Okay I managed to get Gnome 2.20 without anything else from testing (aka without the new X server).

Now none of the bugs I mentioned above in this thread (applications and preferences menu, keyboard layout preferences, keybpard LED indicators) occur.

Everything works perfectly as before.

So it seems that all these bugs have to do with the new X server and not with the new Gnome.

ganja_guru · 2007-10-07 20:01:14

everything from testing works fine here, including gnome 2.20 and xorg... BUT i had to pacman -S libx11 and pacman -R libx11-xcb for some reason(as libx11 conflicts with libx11-xcb), or the issue with gnome preferences,settings (see above ^^^) crops up. IMHO, 'libx11' should be pulled automatically when installing gnome2.20 ..maybe libx11-xcb has 'libx11' in provides? Incidentally, I can't find libx11-xcb anywhere in the repo's anymore.

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#1 2007-09-25 19:46:24

Gnome 2.20?

#2 2007-09-25 19:59:42

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#3 2007-09-26 06:01:30

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#4 2007-09-26 17:00:58

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#5 2007-09-28 02:29:47

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#6 2007-10-04 21:08:19

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#7 2007-10-04 22:29:33

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#8 2007-10-05 09:28:19

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#9 2007-10-05 09:49:46

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#10 2007-10-05 14:33:13

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#11 2007-10-06 10:06:39

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#12 2007-10-06 10:44:01

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#13 2007-10-06 12:06:44

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#14 2007-10-06 12:52:48

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#15 2007-10-06 13:10:44

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#16 2007-10-06 13:24:16

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#17 2007-10-06 13:43:32

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#18 2007-10-06 14:06:52

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#19 2007-10-06 16:43:14

Re: Gnome 2.20?

#20 2007-10-06 19:24:59

Re: Gnome 2.20?

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Re: Gnome 2.20?

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