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#1 2007-10-21 16:55:08

epimer
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Registered: 2007-09-06
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Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

After seeing on Digg that it's possble to run the entirety of the Orange Box under Wine, I installed Steam more or less according to the guide in the wiki. I copied my Steam directory across from my Windows partition (which I only keep around for gaming), and use the script from the wiki page to launch Steam in its own X server.

Steam runs fine, but games from it just pause after hitting launch. My bigger problem, however, is that winecfg won't launch at all - it seems to be something to do with Alsa.

ALSA lib conf.c:3949:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 0
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default:0
wine: Unhandled division by zero at address 0x7cc6716a (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: divide by zero in 32-bit code (0x7cc6716a).
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
 EIP:7cc6716a ESP:0033f440 EBP:0033f688 EFLAGS:00010246(   - 00      -RIZP1)
 EAX:00010000 EBX:7cc77284 ECX:00125680 EDX:00000000
 ESI:00000000 EDI:00000000
Stack dump:
0x0033f440:  7c0e0cd8 0033f674 0033f670 00000008
0x0033f450:  0011fd74 00000020 00000000 00000000
0x0033f460:  00000000 00000000 65746e49 0000006c
0x0033f470:  00000000 00000000 2d414448 65746e49
0x0033f480:  0000006c 00000000 20414448 65746e49
0x0033f490:  0000006c 00000000 00000000 00000000
Backtrace:
=>1 0x7cc6716a ALSA_MixerInit+0x6aa() in winealsa (0x0033f688)
  2 0x7cc67d8c ALSA_mxdMessage+0x3cc() in winealsa (0x0033f7e8)
  3 0x7e5878ce MMDRV_InitPerType+0x7e() in winmm (0x0033f858)
  4 0x7e5881a5 MMDRV_Install+0x305() in winmm (0x0033f8c8)
  5 0x7e588643 MMDRV_Init+0x123() in winmm (0x0033fd28)
  6 0x7e599d32 DllMain+0x102() in winmm (0x0033fd58)
  7 0x7efa2665 call_dll_entry_point+0x15() in ntdll (0x0033fd78)
  8 0x7efa3fbd MODULE_InitDLL+0x8d() in ntdll (0x0033fe08)
  9 0x7efa4624 process_attach+0x174() in ntdll (0x0033fe58)
  10 0x7efa4552 process_attach+0xa2() in ntdll (0x0033fea8)
  11 0x7efa711c LdrInitializeThunk+0x2bc() in ntdll (0x0033ff08)
  12 0x7ee700aa start_process+0xba() in kernel32 (0x0033ffe8)
  13 0xb7ea8837 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0x7cc6716a ALSA_MixerInit+0x6aa in winealsa: idivl      %edi,%eax
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (85 modules)
ELF     7bf00000-7bf03000       Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF     7cb7e000-7cc44000       Deferred        libasound.so.2
ELF     7cc44000-7cc7a000       Export          winealsa<elf>
  \-PE  7cc50000-7cc7a000       \               winealsa
ELF     7cc7a000-7cc91000       Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF     7cc91000-7cc95000       Deferred        libgpg-error.so.0
ELF     7cc95000-7cce2000       Deferred        libgcrypt.so.11
ELF     7cce2000-7ccf1000       Deferred        libtasn1.so.3
ELF     7ccf1000-7cd69000       Deferred        libgnutls.so.13
ELF     7cd69000-7cd97000       Deferred        libcrypt.so.1
ELF     7cd97000-7cda9000       Deferred        libroken.so.18
ELF     7cda9000-7ce1f000       Deferred        libasn1.so.8
ELF     7ce1f000-7cf65000       Deferred        libcrypto.so.0.9.8
ELF     7cf65000-7cf97000       Deferred        libhx509.so.1
ELF     7cf97000-7cff3000       Deferred        libkrb5.so.22
ELF     7cff3000-7d01b000       Deferred        libgssapi.so.2
ELF     7d01b000-7d04e000       Deferred        libcups.so.2
ELF     7d35e000-7d367000       Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
ELF     7d367000-7d384000       Deferred        imm32<elf>
  \-PE  7d370000-7d384000       \               imm32
ELF     7d384000-7d389000       Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
ELF     7d389000-7d38f000       Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
ELF     7d38f000-7d392000       Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
ELF     7d395000-7d39a000       Deferred        libheimntlm.so.0
ELF     7d3a4000-7d3a7000       Deferred        libcom_err.so.2
ELF     7d82c000-7d82e000       Deferred        libnvidia-tls.so.1
ELF     7d82e000-7e1c6000       Deferred        libglcore.so.1
ELF     7e1c6000-7e25c000       Deferred        libgl.so.1
ELF     7e25c000-7e261000       Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF     7e261000-7e278000       Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF     7e278000-7e27b000       Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF     7e27b000-7e364000       Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF     7e364000-7e372000       Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF     7e372000-7e377000       Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF     7e377000-7e38e000       Deferred        libice.so.6
ELF     7e38e000-7e396000       Deferred        libsm.so.6
ELF     7e397000-7e39a000       Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
ELF     7e39a000-7e3a2000       Deferred        libxrender.so.1
ELF     7e3ad000-7e43e000       Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE  7e3c0000-7e43e000       \               winex11
ELF     7e453000-7e473000       Deferred        libexpat.so.1
ELF     7e473000-7e49e000       Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
ELF     7e49e000-7e4b0000       Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF     7e4b0000-7e52b000       Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF     7e52b000-7e55d000       Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE  7e530000-7e55d000       \               uxtheme
ELF     7e55d000-7e5eb000       Export          winmm<elf>
  \-PE  7e570000-7e5eb000       \               winmm
ELF     7e5eb000-7e5fd000       Deferred        libresolv.so.2
ELF     7e5fd000-7e61b000       Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
  \-PE  7e600000-7e61b000       \               iphlpapi
ELF     7e61b000-7e674000       Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE  7e630000-7e674000       \               rpcrt4
ELF     7e674000-7e713000       Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE  7e680000-7e713000       \               ole32
ELF     7e713000-7e748000       Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE  7e720000-7e748000       \               winspool
ELF     7e748000-7e805000       Deferred        comctl32<elf>
  \-PE  7e750000-7e805000       \               comctl32
ELF     7e805000-7e84d000       Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE  7e810000-7e84d000       \               advapi32
ELF     7e84d000-7e8e7000       Deferred        gdi32<elf>
  \-PE  7e860000-7e8e7000       \               gdi32
ELF     7e8e7000-7ea24000       Deferred        user32<elf>
  \-PE  7e900000-7ea24000       \               user32
ELF     7ea24000-7ea7c000       Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE  7ea30000-7ea7c000       \               shlwapi
ELF     7ea7c000-7eb7d000       Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE  7ea90000-7eb7d000       \               shell32
ELF     7eb7d000-7ec1e000       Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE  7eb90000-7ec1e000       \               comdlg32
ELF     7ec1e000-7ec87000       Deferred        winecfg<elf>
  \-PE  7ec30000-7ec87000       \               winecfg
ELF     7edfc000-7ef24000       Export          kernel32<elf>
  \-PE  7ee20000-7ef24000       \               kernel32
ELF     7ef24000-7ef49000       Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF     7ef49000-7ef4b000       Deferred        libxcb-xlib.so.0
ELF     7ef60000-7f000000       Export          ntdll<elf>
  \-PE  7ef70000-7f000000       \               ntdll
ELF     b7d33000-b7d3d000       Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF     b7d3e000-b7d42000       Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF     b7d42000-b7e73000       Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF     b7e73000-b7e8a000       Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF     b7ea1000-b7fb5000       Export          libwine.so.1
ELF     b7fb6000-b7fd2000       Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) c:\windows\system32\winecfg.exe
        00000009    0 <==

I figure I need to be able to tweak wine before I can get Team Fortress 2 running properly - any ideas?

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#2 2007-10-21 17:13:41

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

Disclaimer - I haven't seen the guide, nor tried to run TF2

Looks like an ALSA error...have you tried running OSS in winecfg instead?  In my experience virtually nothing works with wine alsa, and source-based games so far have all required OSS in the past.

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#3 2007-10-21 17:27:27

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

I would, but that's the error message I get when trying to launch winecfg from a terminal hmm

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#4 2007-10-21 18:55:59

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

Did you copy your whole windows directory over? That can cause quite a few problems.  Better to install steam from a vanilla wine install and let steam download TF2 if you can.

AppDB Entry.

Looks like it should install and run correctly on its own.  If you delete your wine directory and still can't winecfg, then there's a big problem.

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#5 2007-10-21 19:13:23

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

First off, I would like to clarify that I do not have the answer to the problem ... but I'm hoping to contribute a possible solution.

I use Windows for 'only one reason', Flash development. In the past few years I have used VMWare but this time around I did not feel like putting down the $200 something that the workstation costs so I tested VirtualBox (in the repositories) and I was most pleasantly surprised.

It works so well that I did not buy an upgrade of VMWare. The set up took me 10 min's and the results are outstanding. I was wondering that perhaps it would be a more rewarding experience for you to devote the time to set up VirtualBox than to use your time to solve the problem in a, at best, half-baked solution with Wine.

Hope this helps.

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#6 2007-10-21 19:26:59

epimer
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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

buttons, thanks for that. I was hoping to save myself the big download, but if it works... smile

ralvez, thanks for the reply, but VirtualBox won't cut it in the graphics department for running games - although I do love it for using some of the software I need for work (specialised chemistry stuff).

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#7 2007-10-21 19:29:07

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

ralvez wrote:

First off, I would like to clarify that I do not have the answer to the problem ... but I'm hoping to contribute a possible solution.

I use Windows for 'only one reason', Flash development. In the past few years I have used VMWare but this time around I did not feel like putting down the $200 something that the workstation costs so I tested VirtualBox (in the repositories) and I was most pleasantly surprised.

It works so well that I did not buy an upgrade of VMWare. The set up took me 10 min's and the results are outstanding. I was wondering that perhaps it would be a more rewarding experience for you to devote the time to set up VirtualBox than to use your time to solve the problem in a, at best, half-baked solution with Wine.

Hope this helps.

Except virtualbox doesn't support direct rendering and likely never will.

EDIT: ahh, you beat me to it tongue

Last edited by buttons (2007-10-21 19:29:43)

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#8 2007-10-21 19:41:39

epimer
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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

Ok, I removed wine, cleaned the package cache, deleted ~/.wine, checked with locate that there were no more wine entries hiding in my filesystem... and I get this when running winecfg from a terminal:

wine: creating configuration directory '/home/epimer/.wine'...
ALSA lib conf.c:3949:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 0
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default:0
fixme:winspool:AddPrinterDriverExW Flags 0x8 ignored (Fallback to APD_COPY_ALL_FILES)
fixme:winspool:AddPrinterDriverExW ### DrvDriverEvent(...,DRIVEREVENT_INITIALIZE) not implemented yet
fixme:winspool:AddPrinterDriverExW Flags 0x8 ignored (Fallback to APD_COPY_ALL_FILES)
fixme:winspool:AddPrinterDriverExW ### DrvDriverEvent(...,DRIVEREVENT_INITIALIZE) not implemented yet
wine: '/home/epimer/.wine' created successfully.
ALSA lib conf.c:3949:(snd_config_expand) Unknown parameters 0
ALSA lib control.c:909:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default:0
wine: Unhandled division by zero at address 0x7cc6616a (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: divide by zero in 32-bit code (0x7cc6616a).
Register dump:
 CS:0073 SS:007b DS:007b ES:007b FS:0033 GS:003b
 EIP:7cc6616a ESP:0033f440 EBP:0033f688 EFLAGS:00010246(   - 00      -RIZP1)
 EAX:00010000 EBX:7cc76284 ECX:001259b0 EDX:00000000
 ESI:00000000 EDI:00000000
Stack dump:
0x0033f440:  7c0e0d00 0033f674 0033f670 00000008
0x0033f450:  001200a4 00000020 00000000 00000000
0x0033f460:  00000000 00000000 65746e49 0000006c
0x0033f470:  00000000 00000000 2d414448 65746e49
0x0033f480:  0000006c 00000000 20414448 65746e49
0x0033f490:  0000006c 00000000 00000000 00000000
Backtrace:
=>1 0x7cc6616a ALSA_MixerInit+0x6aa() in winealsa (0x0033f688)
  2 0x7cc66d8c ALSA_mxdMessage+0x3cc() in winealsa (0x0033f7e8)
  3 0x7e5878ce MMDRV_InitPerType+0x7e() in winmm (0x0033f858)
  4 0x7e5881a5 MMDRV_Install+0x305() in winmm (0x0033f8c8)
  5 0x7e588643 MMDRV_Init+0x123() in winmm (0x0033fd28)
  6 0x7e599d32 DllMain+0x102() in winmm (0x0033fd58)
  7 0x7efa2665 call_dll_entry_point+0x15() in ntdll (0x0033fd78)
  8 0x7efa3fbd MODULE_InitDLL+0x8d() in ntdll (0x0033fe08)
  9 0x7efa4624 process_attach+0x174() in ntdll (0x0033fe58)
  10 0x7efa4552 process_attach+0xa2() in ntdll (0x0033fea8)
  11 0x7efa711c LdrInitializeThunk+0x2bc() in ntdll (0x0033ff08)
  12 0x7ee700aa start_process+0xba() in kernel32 (0x0033ffe8)
  13 0xb7e38837 wine_switch_to_stack+0x17() in libwine.so.1 (0x00000000)
0x7cc6616a ALSA_MixerInit+0x6aa in winealsa: idivl      %edi,%eax
Modules:
Module  Address                 Debug info      Name (85 modules)
ELF     7bf00000-7bf03000       Deferred        <wine-loader>
ELF     7cb7d000-7cc43000       Deferred        libasound.so.2
ELF     7cc43000-7cc79000       Export          winealsa<elf>
  \-PE  7cc50000-7cc79000       \               winealsa
ELF     7cc79000-7cc90000       Deferred        libnsl.so.1
ELF     7cc90000-7cc94000       Deferred        libgpg-error.so.0
ELF     7cc94000-7cce1000       Deferred        libgcrypt.so.11
ELF     7cce1000-7ccf0000       Deferred        libtasn1.so.3
ELF     7ccf0000-7cd68000       Deferred        libgnutls.so.13
ELF     7cd68000-7cd96000       Deferred        libcrypt.so.1
ELF     7cd96000-7cda8000       Deferred        libroken.so.18
ELF     7cda8000-7ce1e000       Deferred        libasn1.so.8
ELF     7ce1e000-7cf64000       Deferred        libcrypto.so.0.9.8
ELF     7cf64000-7cf96000       Deferred        libhx509.so.1
ELF     7cf96000-7cff2000       Deferred        libkrb5.so.22
ELF     7cff2000-7d01a000       Deferred        libgssapi.so.2
ELF     7d01a000-7d04d000       Deferred        libcups.so.2
ELF     7d35e000-7d367000       Deferred        libxcursor.so.1
ELF     7d367000-7d384000       Deferred        imm32<elf>
  \-PE  7d370000-7d384000       \               imm32
ELF     7d384000-7d389000       Deferred        libxfixes.so.3
ELF     7d389000-7d38f000       Deferred        libxrandr.so.2
ELF     7d38f000-7d392000       Deferred        libxinerama.so.1
ELF     7d395000-7d39a000       Deferred        libheimntlm.so.0
ELF     7d3a4000-7d3a7000       Deferred        libcom_err.so.2
ELF     7d82c000-7d82e000       Deferred        libnvidia-tls.so.1
ELF     7d82e000-7e1c6000       Deferred        libglcore.so.1
ELF     7e1c6000-7e25c000       Deferred        libgl.so.1
ELF     7e25c000-7e261000       Deferred        libxdmcp.so.6
ELF     7e261000-7e278000       Deferred        libxcb.so.1
ELF     7e278000-7e27b000       Deferred        libxau.so.6
ELF     7e27b000-7e364000       Deferred        libx11.so.6
ELF     7e364000-7e372000       Deferred        libxext.so.6
ELF     7e372000-7e377000       Deferred        libxxf86vm.so.1
ELF     7e377000-7e38e000       Deferred        libice.so.6
ELF     7e38e000-7e396000       Deferred        libsm.so.6
ELF     7e397000-7e39a000       Deferred        libxcomposite.so.1
ELF     7e39a000-7e3a2000       Deferred        libxrender.so.1
ELF     7e3ad000-7e43e000       Deferred        winex11<elf>
  \-PE  7e3c0000-7e43e000       \               winex11
ELF     7e453000-7e473000       Deferred        libexpat.so.1
ELF     7e473000-7e49e000       Deferred        libfontconfig.so.1
ELF     7e49e000-7e4b0000       Deferred        libz.so.1
ELF     7e4b0000-7e52b000       Deferred        libfreetype.so.6
ELF     7e52b000-7e55d000       Deferred        uxtheme<elf>
  \-PE  7e530000-7e55d000       \               uxtheme
ELF     7e55d000-7e5eb000       Export          winmm<elf>
  \-PE  7e570000-7e5eb000       \               winmm
ELF     7e5eb000-7e5fd000       Deferred        libresolv.so.2
ELF     7e5fd000-7e61b000       Deferred        iphlpapi<elf>
  \-PE  7e600000-7e61b000       \               iphlpapi
ELF     7e61b000-7e674000       Deferred        rpcrt4<elf>
  \-PE  7e630000-7e674000       \               rpcrt4
ELF     7e674000-7e713000       Deferred        ole32<elf>
  \-PE  7e680000-7e713000       \               ole32
ELF     7e713000-7e748000       Deferred        winspool<elf>
  \-PE  7e720000-7e748000       \               winspool
ELF     7e748000-7e805000       Deferred        comctl32<elf>
  \-PE  7e750000-7e805000       \               comctl32
ELF     7e805000-7e84d000       Deferred        advapi32<elf>
  \-PE  7e810000-7e84d000       \               advapi32
ELF     7e84d000-7e8e7000       Deferred        gdi32<elf>
  \-PE  7e860000-7e8e7000       \               gdi32
ELF     7e8e7000-7ea24000       Deferred        user32<elf>
  \-PE  7e900000-7ea24000       \               user32
ELF     7ea24000-7ea7c000       Deferred        shlwapi<elf>
  \-PE  7ea30000-7ea7c000       \               shlwapi
ELF     7ea7c000-7eb7d000       Deferred        shell32<elf>
  \-PE  7ea90000-7eb7d000       \               shell32
ELF     7eb7d000-7ec1e000       Deferred        comdlg32<elf>
  \-PE  7eb90000-7ec1e000       \               comdlg32
ELF     7ec1e000-7ec87000       Deferred        winecfg<elf>
  \-PE  7ec30000-7ec87000       \               winecfg
ELF     7edfc000-7ef24000       Export          kernel32<elf>
  \-PE  7ee20000-7ef24000       \               kernel32
ELF     7ef24000-7ef49000       Deferred        libm.so.6
ELF     7ef49000-7ef4b000       Deferred        libxcb-xlib.so.0
ELF     7ef60000-7f000000       Export          ntdll<elf>
  \-PE  7ef70000-7f000000       \               ntdll
ELF     b7cc3000-b7ccd000       Deferred        libnss_files.so.2
ELF     b7cce000-b7cd2000       Deferred        libdl.so.2
ELF     b7cd2000-b7e03000       Deferred        libc.so.6
ELF     b7e03000-b7e1a000       Deferred        libpthread.so.0
ELF     b7e31000-b7f45000       Export          libwine.so.1
ELF     b7f46000-b7f62000       Deferred        ld-linux.so.2
Threads:
process  tid      prio (all id:s are in hex)
00000008 (D) c:\windows\system32\winecfg.exe
        00000009    0 <==

hmm

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#9 2007-10-21 20:01:53

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

I don't see anything like that on google.  Bug report time.  They'll ask you to provide a stack trace.

winecfg --debugmsg +winecfg 2>log

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#10 2007-10-21 20:30:42

epimer
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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

Ok. Bug report filed. Thanks for the help.

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#11 2007-10-22 01:16:39

N30N
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Posts: 273

Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

Epimer, I've been running TF2 fine with out any major issues (got the normal eyeball bug smile) for the last two weeks.

Your deficiently going to want to install it properly (not copy over from windows). Installation procedure is the same as other source based games so if you have trouble just check one of the many guides. The only thing extra I had to to was set "VideoMemorySize"="256" under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Wine\Direct3D in regedit other wise the game would randomly crash (of course 256 if specific to my hardware).

Also the game runs fine with OSS or Alsa (although your mic wont work with OSS).

Last edited by N30N (2007-10-22 01:51:31)

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#12 2007-11-01 18:56:01

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

hmm i dont see the Direct3D setting any where.  and there is not where to add that either.

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#13 2007-11-05 16:46:10

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

crazyindian wrote:

hmm i dont see the Direct3D setting any where.  and there is not where to add that either.

Sorry for the late replay, you have to add it (from the right click menu).

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#14 2007-11-06 02:00:13

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Posts: 37

Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

would using the steam games backup utility (in windoze) & then install it via steam in wine?

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#15 2007-11-08 21:43:32

crazyindian
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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

hmm its funny cause when i try to run it some times the games launches but crashes and some times the games does not even come up

any one know what may be causing that?


also i get a out dated video driver message.  i have the latest linux vid drivers for my nvidia 7600gt.

is that something i can ignore

Last edited by crazyindian (2007-11-08 21:45:06)

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#16 2007-11-09 00:11:02

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Re: Problems with wine and Team Fortress 2

crazyindian wrote:

also i get a out dated video driver message.  i have the latest linux vid drivers for my nvidia 7600gt.

is that something i can ignore

Yeah that's normal. Sorry cant help with your other problem.

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