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#1 2007-10-27 13:55:27

Raizha_Phyrok
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[SOLVED] No sound at all

Hello, first of all, sorry for my very very poor english (even I wrote wrong the first word....)

I'm a totally noob on linux, and a week ago, i tried no install the arch linux distribution. In this time, everything go well, but i have some problems, and first of all i like to solve the sound problem.

I tried everything of are wrote on the wiki, and nothing works for me. I'm using the alsa system, and it recognises every my hardware and modules, even i tried to do the steps on the wiki for enable sound in multiple programs, but none works. I don't know ho to do now, and i thanks a lot if you can help me, prease! smile

Again, sorry for my poor english, i undestand well, but wrote or speak... well, you see....

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#2 2007-10-27 14:16:22

bgc1954
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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

If you are sure you have alsa-lib and alsa-utils installed, try running alsaconf as root.

#alsaconf

This should find your sound card and make it work properly.  As long as it finds the card you will know that the proper module is loaded.  If not, you will have to manually load the snd driver with something like

 #modprobe snd-via82xx

(that's what my asus motherboard uses).  Then try

#alsaconf

again.  If it works then you just have to add alsa to the end of your daemons line in /etc/rc.conf

DAEMONS=(syslog-ng gpm network netfs crond alsa)

If you've done all this already then I'm not sure what the problem could be.  It should work.  Oh, and also remember to unmute your sound using

#alsamixer

and then

#alsactl store

to keep the volume level on reboot.

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#3 2007-10-27 14:25:41

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Hello, thanks for posting.

I done all you wrote (again, but i did it in case of magical works) and nothing hapens... I still not sound (i tried to play a song with amarok, it appears to work but i can't hear anything). No more ideas?


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#4 2007-10-27 14:39:30

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

I'm curious as to whether alsaconf saw your card and seemed to install everything?  Also, what desktop are you running?  I'll assume it's KDE since you are trying amarok.  If it is KDE, try running kmix in the multimedia section of your menu.  That will confirm your sound levels and card are set up properly.  Make sure you are in the audio group as well as it may be a permissions problem.  Add your username to the audio line in /etc/group.


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#5 2007-10-27 14:45:12

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

[phyrok@Odin ~]$ lsmod|grep '^snd'
snd_intel8x0m          14092  1
snd_seq_oss            29312  0
snd_seq_midi_event      6528  1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq                46800  4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device          6924  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_intel8x0           28700  3
snd_ac97_codec         95268  2 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0
snd_pcm_oss            36896  0
snd_pcm                68996  5 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer              19332  3 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc          8072  3 snd_intel8x0m,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss          14464  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd                    44644  16 snd_intel8x0m,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss

[phyrok@Odin ~]$ ls -l /dev/snd/
total 0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  0 oct 27 14:22 controlC0
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 32 oct 27 14:22 controlC1
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 24 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 16 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 25 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D1c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 26 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D2c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 27 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D3c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 20 oct 27 14:22 pcmC0D4p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 56 oct 27 14:22 pcmC1D0c
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 48 oct 27 14:22 pcmC1D0p
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116,  1 oct 27 14:22 seq
crw-rw---- 1 root audio 116, 33 oct 27 14:22 timer

I'm running the kdemod desktop manager, and in kmix all levels are on the top, nothing unmute, and this is very very strange, at last:

[phyrok@Odin ~]$ groups
tty lp dbus hal network video audio optical floppy storage camera power users

In the alsaconf, the script identifyed my card as a intel8x0 soundcard (or something like that, is a realtek ac'97, and my laptop is an acer aspire 1800 series)

I'm not have any clue that tell me how is wrong. Thanks for you answers.

Last edited by Raizha_Phyrok (2007-10-27 14:47:13)


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#6 2007-10-27 21:03:00

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Are you unmuting your sound channels when you run alsamixer? Are you cursoring to the main and pcm channels and using the M key to unmute? Cursor up to raise volume?

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#7 2007-10-28 08:59:20

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

@Misfit138

Yes, i'm doing everything you saind and all of said in the wiki, and nothing works for me, it's very strange...

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#8 2007-10-28 10:03:19

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Raizha_Phyrok, is your machine laptop with dual boot with windows. I have such a problem when I was using dual boot on my laptop.

When you start a music player, like xmms or so, are the progress bar moving, and the lines of the equalizer moving up and down, like the music is playing, but you just not hear anything.

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#9 2007-10-28 10:09:01

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

@Gruntz

Yes, it's just you said, i'm using grub to dual bot windows and arch linux, and if I plays anything with the amarok, like example, the bars and equalizer are moving up and down, and all sems to the music it's playing correctly. The most strange thing is that when the boot finished, and the kde it's going to start up, I allways hear a short beep from the speakers.

What could be the problem?


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#10 2007-10-28 11:17:17

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Well ... I do not know exactly what is the problem. But I know what I have done to solve it. It my sound strange, and you may think that I am not right, but I will tell you what have I done.

When I run windows, and I start some music, or play a game, there is a sound and everything is fine. But when I reboot in arch, there is no sound. Once I pull out my battery, waited two minutes (without battery or cable). Then I booted arch and I had sound.

I think that the problem is, that when my computer is running on DC power or battery, it is not setting all registers or the ram or some other kind of memory to 0. So when I boot linux, the windows drivers are still loaded, or something like that, so arch cannot access the sound card. I noticed that because, when I reboot the laptop from windows and try to run arch, when I write startx to start X, I see the windows shutting down screen (which is the last thing that is my video memory, before the laptop reboots). As far as my video memory is a part of the ram (it is shared memory), I think that the computer is not setting all the memory to 0, and it is showing what is last in the video memory (in this case the windows shutting down screen).

I have that problem with arch, ubuntu and slackware.

I have no real solution to the problem, I just wait some time without battery and DC cable connected (you can try that ti see if that is the problem). The I start arch and everything is fine. The real solution is to remove the windows from your PC big_smile

And please, do not tell me that I am crazy, it worked for me and I am just trying to help. smile

Best wishes.

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#11 2007-10-28 11:38:54

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Hello there!

I just do that you said Gruntz, and... nothing works, i'm still no sound but hearing the strange beeb just before of kde starts. I'm out of ideas, and i'm tried everything on the wiki and of you wrote, maybe we need an exorcist tongue

Thanks for helping, i wish i can repair the problem.


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#12 2007-10-28 15:25:48

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Do you plugged in speakers?

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#13 2007-10-28 15:28:50

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

obyously, yes, when i wrote speaker i mean the speakers that the laptop carry on itself. I also plugged an headphones and the speakers of the other pc, and nothing works.


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#14 2007-10-28 16:35:58

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

Tried remove and re-install alsa-utils?

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#15 2007-10-28 17:03:15

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Re: [SOLVED] No sound at all

@ibendiben

A lot of thanks!!!!!!!!!!!! it works!!!! i re-installed the alsa-utils, make an alsaconfig, then an alsamixer (unmuting the external channel), and in the control center of kde, enabling the kde system sound, and it works like a charm! cool

A lot of thaks everybody, this forum rocks (now.... er... to fix the "little problem" with xgl....)


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