Xorg 7.3 Startup Problem

Infracephas · 2007-11-06 18:16:42

Hey folks,
I'm having trouble starting X after performing an upgrade late last night. When I attempt to run startx, X will start up and display bright colors while slowly fading in hue. Mouse does not display. I can switch back to a console with ctrl-alt-f*. Also, the hard disk starts thrashing.

I tried moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere leaving no xorg.conf for startx to use. X continues doing the same behavior, so I don't think it's with the config file.

Here is my Xorg log: (run w/o config)
http://www.lastholdout.com/foo/xorglog.txt

Here is the config file:
http://www.lastholdout.com/foo/xorg.conf

Infracephas · 2007-11-06 19:52:19

Update:
I managed to get into X by modifying my xorg.conf file:

...
Section "Device"
Identifier "foo"
Driver "vesa"
EndSection
...
Section "Screen"
...
#Device "Card0"
Device "foo"
...
EndSection

I'm thinking it might be a problem with the open source ATI/Radeon driver. I'm not currently using fglrx. Anyone have any ideas?

Another note.

It' appears that the whole mess about:

...
Entering Restore TV
Restore TV PLL
Restore TVHV
Restore TV Restarts
Restore Timing Tables
Restore TV standard
Leaving Restore TV
...

doesn't happen when I use the vesa driver. I'm thinking the funky colors and disk thrashing might have something to do with whatever is happening with those log entries.

Last edited by Infracephas (2007-11-06 20:12:08)

Infracephas · 2007-11-06 20:35:33

Another update:

I've narrowed it down a bit further. It appears to be a problem with the most recent xf86-video-ati (6.7.195-1).

In order to fix, I downgraded to xf86-video-ati-6.6.3-3, and ran:

startx -- -ignoreABI

I'm using an ATI RV350 - Mobility Radeon 9700 M10.

Infracephas · 2007-11-07 17:42:49

Just upgraded to xorg-server 1.4-5, and re-upgraded to xf86-video-ati 6.7.195-1. Same problems as in my initial post. I downgraded back to xf86-video-ati-6.6.3-3 and ran

startx -- -ignoreABI

dunc · 2007-11-07 22:44:14

As I posted on another thread, it just doesn't work at all for me. Freezes the entire system. And yes, it is definitely xf86-video-ati. After seeing your posts here I managed to get it working with vesa too.

So do you want to file a bug report, or shall I?

I wonder if there's any point in reporting it to the Arch devs, though. It looks like the sort of thing that's coming from upstream.

tjach · 2007-11-08 13:45:14

I'm also experiencing problem with new ATI open source driver. In my case however, it also turns the notebook's lcd off. I've tried to connect second monitor, but it's also being powered down.
I can't submit my Xorg.log file, because it gets corrupted whenever I start my system with new Xorg + Ati drivers.

djclue917 · 2007-11-08 14:20:41

I'm using the open source ATI driver and everything is working fine here. I'm using Radeon X300.

djclue917 · 2007-11-08 14:22:01

Infracephas wrote:

Hey folks,
I'm having trouble starting X after performing an upgrade late last night. When I attempt to run startx, X will start up and display bright colors while slowly fading in hue. Mouse does not display. I can switch back to a console with ctrl-alt-f*. Also, the hard disk starts thrashing.
I tried moving /etc/X11/xorg.conf elsewhere leaving no xorg.conf for startx to use. X continues doing the same behavior, so I don't think it's with the config file.
Here is my Xorg log: (run w/o config)
http://www.lastholdout.com/foo/xorglog.txt
Here is the config file:
http://www.lastholdout.com/foo/xorg.conf

Try removing 'Load "GLcore"' in your xorg.conf

Infracephas · 2007-11-08 16:41:52

djclue917

I commented out Load "GLcore", upgraded to xf86-video-ati 6.7.195, and restarted X. Same problem as before. Hmm, I wonder what the difference is between yours and mine.

tjach:
Xorg keeps a second log file for the session prior to the one you just tried to launch. It is located at:
/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old

tjach · 2007-11-08 16:54:45

Infracephas:
Yes, it does. Unfortunetlly both files are corrupted. Please don't connect it to Xorg issues, because I've been experiencing some hard drive failures recently and they could be responsible to file corruption.
If I have some free time, I'll try to investigate it further.

dunc · 2007-11-08 20:34:16

tjach wrote:

Infracephas:
Yes, it does. Unfortunetlly both files are corrupted. Please don't connect it to Xorg issues, because I've been experiencing some hard drive failures recently and they could be responsible to file corruption.

Could be. But I put the corruption of my logs down to the need to do a hard reboot because the keyboard won't work: i.e, it's probably a filesystem cache thing. It also corrupted my zsh .histfile, but nothing else.

Infracephas · 2007-11-08 21:17:21

I logged a bug on bugs.freedesktop.org:
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=13149

Last edited by Infracephas (2007-11-08 21:53:16)

Infracephas · 2007-11-09 04:57:02

The most recent version in their git repo works. Looks like they've already fixed it.

hacosta · 2007-11-09 06:30:41

do you have the PKGBUILD?

Infracephas · 2007-11-09 14:49:45

I haven't made one. (actually, I've never made a PKGBUILD before)

Infracephas · 2007-11-09 19:04:26

I gave xf86-video-ati 6.7.195-2 a shot, no good. Looks like the problem is still present.

Infracephas · 2007-11-11 18:44:12

The most recent package, xf86-video-ati 6.7.195-3 fixed it!

tjach · 2007-11-12 16:04:31

Good to hear, but in my case - it didn't. I've just done pacman -Syu and the problem is still there.
When I'll get home, I'll try to get a closer look.

Theoden · 2007-11-12 16:42:29

tjach wrote:

Good to hear, but in my case - it didn't. I've just done pacman -Syu and the problem is still there.
When I'll get home, I'll try to get a closer look.

I sadly have your result tjach - still no love out of -3 ... ati is still broke.

--Theoden

tjach · 2007-11-12 18:30:19

As before, I can't even debug the problem: xorg hands my computer permanently, Xorg.0.log is corrupted (Xorg.0.log.old too). Second monitor - dead. I've even tried to ssh into my notebook - no result (it appears that the whole system is frozen, not just the X-server).
I bless the day, when I created my own pacman repo with old Xorg:)

dunc · 2007-11-13 17:02:08

tjach wrote:

As before, I can't even debug the problem: xorg hands my computer permanently, Xorg.0.log is corrupted (Xorg.0.log.old too). Second monitor - dead. I've even tried to ssh into my notebook - no result (it appears that the whole system is frozen, not just the X-server).
I bless the day, when I created my own pacman repo with old Xorg:)

Have you seen this: http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 57#p298757?

Ok, some news. Reading another topic I was lead to this page, which says that one can try to autodetect everything. So I removed my xorg.conf, then ran startx, and... TADAAAAAA :

As I said in reply to that, I haven't had the guts to try it yet (No xorg.conf? That can't work, surely? ), but you seem to have exactly the same problem, so it might be worth a go.

tjach · 2007-11-13 20:55:20

I think, that I owe you a beer:)
Yes, in fact it didn't solve my problems immediately, but at least I was managed to see the Xorg.0.log. It appears, that Mobility Radeon 9700 (or at least my laptop) has a fault, which switches the EDID signals from external VGA and internal LVDS.
With few improvements, I'm running now new Xorg. Thanks for everything.
Here's my xorg.conf:

Section "dri" 
    Group 0
    Mode 0666 
 EndSection 
 
 Section "Module" 
     Load   "evdev"
 EndSection 
 
 Section "Files" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/local/" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/misc/" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/Type1/" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi/" 
     FontPath   "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi/" 
 EndSection 
 
 Section "InputDevice" 
 
     Identifier   "Keyboard1" 
     Driver      "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
     Option       "AutoRepeat"    "500 30" 
 
 EndSection 
 
 Section "InputDevice" 
 
     Driver      "synaptics" 
     Identifier  "Touchpad" 
     Option      "Device"                "/dev/psaux"
     Option      "CorePointer" 
     Option      "Protocol"              "auto-dev" 
     Option      "LeftEdge"              "1700" 
     Option      "RightEdge"             "5300" 
     Option      "TopEdge"               "1700" 
     Option      "BottomEdge"            "4200" 
     Option      "FingerLow"             "35" 
     Option      "FingerHigh"            "40" 
     Option      "MaxTapTime"            "180" 
     Option      "MaxTapMove"            "220" 
     Option      "VertScrollDelta"       "100" 
     Option      "MinSpeed"              "0.06" 
     Option      "MaxSpeed"              "0.12" 
     Option      "AccelFactor"           "0.0010" 
     Option      "SHMConfig"             "on" 
 
 EndSection 
 
  Section "InputDevice" 
 
     Identifier   "Mouse1" 
     Driver       "evdev" 
Option "Name" "Logitech USB Receiver"
 
 EndSection 
 
 Section "Monitor" 
     Identifier     "Monitor0" 
     HorizSync      28.0 - 96.0 
     VertRefresh    60 
     ModeLine       "1280x800" 108.0 1280 1376 1488 1800 800 800 808 850 +hsync +vsync 
     Option       "DPMS" 
 EndSection 
 
 
 Section "Device" 
        Identifier                      "Radeon0" 
    Driver "ati"
    Option     "RenderAccel" "true" 
    Option "GARTSize"      "64" 
    Option "FBTexPercent"      "50" 
    Option "DisplayPriority"   "HIGH"      # Fix flickering 
    Option "ColorTiling"      "1" 
    Option "EnablePageFlip"      "1" 
    Option "EnableDepthMoves"   "1" 
    Option "AccelMethod"      "XAA" 
    Option "SubPixelOrder"      "RGB" 
    Option "DynamicClocks"      "1" 
    Option "VGAAccess"      "0" 

 EndSection 
 
 Section "Screen" 
     Identifier  "Screen0" 
     Device      "Radeon0" 
     Monitor     "Monitor0" 
     DefaultDepth 24 
     Subsection "Display" 
     EndSubsection 
 EndSection 
 
 Section "ServerLayout" 
 
     Identifier    "Server Layout" 
     Screen          "Screen0" 
InputDevice    "Touchpad" "CorePointer"
     InputDevice    "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
 InputDevice    "Mouse1" "SendCoreEvents"
 
 EndSection

dunc · 2007-11-13 23:20:01

Excellent! Looks like it might be time for me to take a deep breath and try again, then.

Theoden · 2007-11-14 14:43:59

Well I'll be damned! Kudos to tjach for reporting this fix.

My ati drivers have not worked since the xorg upgrade. I moved my /etc/X11/xorg.conf to a safe location - upgraded again to the latest xorg stuff - and ran startx - letting it auto generate its config ... X started and Gnome came up! Finally.

Then I exited out - and did an Xorg -configure to generate a new xorg.conf ... I put it in place (/etc/X11) - and ran startx - worked first time.

Then I opened the new xorg.conf and my old xorg.conf in meld - and copied over the settings I specifically wanted - saved and ran startx. Bingo - everything worked. I'm amazed.

Thank you tjach - you found the fix I needed.

Best regards,

--Theoden

Last edited by Theoden (2007-11-14 14:45:45)

tjach · 2007-11-14 17:43:47

Well, I was inspired by dunc, so all he greets should go to him

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#1 2007-11-06 18:16:42

Xorg 7.3 Startup Problem

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Re: Xorg 7.3 Startup Problem

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