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ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

another java question

so i've posted around a few times that im running arch 64 now on my main desktop, and loving it. anyway, this isnt a huge issue, but....

i have openoffice and azureus from the testing repo, and they dont use jre, they use something else, i forget what.

now i'd like to get frostwire working, i have it in my pacman cache atm. but it wants to install jre which i also have in my pacman cache. but if i try to install it, i need to remove openoffice and azureus. nothing wrong with that i guess, but azureus and open office are more important

then theres the browser plugin, from waht i've read on the forum here searching, theres not too  many options as far as solid browser plugins other than just using konquerer which i dont like as a web browser because im picky, so i use firefox. i also read about blackdown-jre which is looking like a good option as my understanding is that is uses jre and provides a browser plugin for mozilla browsers

my question is here, as this is beyond me. but i guess waht im getting to is, is there a way i can get blackdown working so i can use frostwire and have java in firefox without breaking my current azureus and openoffice installs? has anyone made just a step by step for these that i could follow easily enough?

actually i was just looking at the java site and they list mozilla 1.4 on the linux 32/64bit java 1.5
http://java.com/en/download/help/5000011400.xml

does that sound right?

Last edited by ssl6 (2007-09-19 02:34:23)

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Beini

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From: Finland

Registered: 2007-06-06

Posts: 78

Re: another java question

gcc-gcj includes a native browser plugin. Should be pretty usable.

Blackdown plugin is not usable IMHO, usually just crashes the browser. There's a lot people having problems with it.

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ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

Re: another java question

ya, i read that about blackdown, saw alot of issues of it crashnig. and it doesnt seem to provide any recent java environment. i think gcc-gcj is what was installed for open office and azureus. so i guess i dont need to worry about it for now. im more concerned right now with getting doom 3 running

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Janax

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From: Iowa

Registered: 2007-05-21

Posts: 86

Re: another java question

If you're interested, you might want to look at the packages for a 32-bit browser in your 64-bit Arch setup.  I was running into the same kind of issues you're describing, except my main problem was that Java WebStart (javaws) is only supplied in the 32-bit JRE.  Since I use javaws for some code my group writes, I wanted to have that all working.  Getting it to work required a 32-bit browser since nspluginwrapper can't wrap the Java plugin...

Here are a few links if you're interested:

bin32-swiftfox-prescott
bin32-swiftfox-athlon64
lib32-jdk

If you're going to use this method, then you'll have to link the java plugin yourself once everything is installed, like so:

# ln -s /opt/java32/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/swiftfox/plugins/

Good luck whichever way you decide to go!

ssl6

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From: Ottawa, ON, CA

Registered: 2007-08-30

Posts: 594

Re: another java question

well, i'm really not too concerned with it, i didn't know that the gcc package had a plugin, and for what i use it good enough. the biggest problem i was having as far as browsers go was i couldnt get ad blocker and forecastfox working properly, they wouldnt save my settings. i got that fixed though, installed them with my root account and just copied them to the firefox folder

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mivo

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From: Germany

Registered: 2007-11-13

Posts: 34

Re: another java question

bin32-swiftfox-prescott
bin32-swiftfox-athlon64

Sorry for responding in an older thread, but gathering some information before I put Arch64 on my production desktop (I need Javaws to work). For use on an Intel Core Duo processor, the version I want is the Prescott one, correct?  Thanks for offering those, by the way. No Javaws and/or no "real" Java support in the browser would have been a show stopper for me.

Janax

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From: Iowa

Registered: 2007-05-21

Posts: 86

Re: another java question

Yes, you'd want the "Prescott" version for the Core 2 Duo...

No problem about the packages.  Arch has been a wonderful distro - I moved permanently over from Gentoo earlier this year!

mivo

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From: Germany

Registered: 2007-11-13

Posts: 34

Re: another java question

The "experimenting" on my spare box went well, so while I am writing this, Arch is installing on my regular desktop. I'm not really an experienced Linux user (only two months since I migrated), but I'd like to get to know my Linux system properly, learn, and I didn't get comfortable with the cyclical release system of nearly all distros (and the almost required reinstall every x months). I like what I read and saw of Arch, and with a bit of luck my knowledge will increase, too. Arch, by the way, is the only distro so far that did not choke on my desktop's Abit AB9 Pro board (and the Jmicron controller). All others required tweaking and specific boot options.

(On a side note, I didn't have to do anything special in pacman.conf? If installed from the 64bit ISO, it will only get 64bit/non-arch stuff from core, extra and community? I'm asking because I saw references to "community64" in some posts, and the packages it is downloading right now don't have a x86_64 in their file names.)

skottish

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From: Here

Registered: 2006-06-16

Posts: 7,942

Re: another java question

I'm asking because I saw references to "community64" in some posts, and the packages it is downloading right now don't have a x86_64 in their file names.)

It's not a problem. Just make sure that the repo information is right in your config files.

mivo

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From: Germany

Registered: 2007-11-13

Posts: 34

Re: another java question

*nods* Okay, thanks! I only uncommented "community". "core" and "extra" were already enabled. (This is a difference to the i686 installer where "community" is enabled by default.) So "community64" is not an actual repository but only a term people use to refer to the 64-bit packages in the "community" repo? (I do feel incredibly newbieish. )