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#1 2007-08-11 17:19:13

synthead
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Kazehakase

I have never gotten a better usability/lightweight ratio out of any browser.  It's 120% the heft of dillo and all the all the functionality of firefox. 

With software this efficient, you wonder, 'where did the other guys go wrong?'

You guys need to try it, it's in the repos.

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#2 2007-08-11 18:00:00

kishd
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Re: Kazehakase

Tried it lightweigt, lean and fast. Just miss my addons in firefox too much.


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#3 2007-08-11 18:13:52

MrWeatherbee
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Re: Kazehakase

synthead wrote:

... and all the all the functionality of firefox.

kishd wrote:

Tried it lightweigt, lean and fast. Just miss my addons in firefox too much.

Yep. It would be hard to have 'all the functionality of firefox' without the Firefox extensions / add-ons. Otherwise, it delivers on lightness.

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#4 2007-08-11 20:32:11

madhatter
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Re: Kazehakase

How does it compare to Epiphany?

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#5 2007-08-11 21:05:24

nikron
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Re: Kazehakase

400mHz and 128mb of ram enough to run it?

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#6 2007-08-12 01:00:36

jdhore
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Re: Kazehakase

nikron wrote:

400mHz and 128mb of ram enough to run it?

Plenty. My dad runs Kazehakase + Gnome on his crappy 700MhZ laptop with 128MB ram and it all runs decently. Kazehakase is great and i love it, but i can't live without my AdBlock Plus smile

Last edited by jdhore (2007-08-12 01:01:26)

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#7 2007-08-12 12:13:33

iphitus
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Re: Kazehakase

jdhore wrote:
nikron wrote:

400mHz and 128mb of ram enough to run it?

Plenty. My dad runs Kazehakase + Gnome on his crappy 700MhZ laptop with 128MB ram and it all runs decently. Kazehakase is great and i love it, but i can't live without my AdBlock Plus smile

could always use an adblocking /etc/hosts file. they work great in every browser. Useful things, I used one on windows the other day to block some 'in software' advertising that annoyed me.... if it can't download the ads, then it cant show me ads.

James

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#8 2007-08-12 15:00:04

MrWeatherbee
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Re: Kazehakase

iphitus wrote:
jdhore wrote:
nikron wrote:

400mHz and 128mb of ram enough to run it?

Plenty. My dad runs Kazehakase + Gnome on his crappy 700MhZ laptop with 128MB ram and it all runs decently. Kazehakase is great and i love it, but i can't live without my AdBlock Plus smile

could always use an adblocking /etc/hosts file. they work great in every browser. Useful things, I used one on windows the other day to block some 'in software' advertising that annoyed me.... if it can't download the ads, then it cant show me ads.

James

I also prefer browser-agnostic solutions.

Not many people have heard of Proxomitron, but it's an extremely powerful and fast http proxy.  Most people use it to kill ads and other "malicious" content, but as an http proxy, it allows the user to modify any content of any web pages before it is rendered in the browser. It is similar to Privoxy in concept, but its implementation is so much more refined (Privoxy is dog slow with only a few filters applied ... Proxo is essentially transparent using the most complex "filter" sets).

I've used Proxo since the Win 98 days (argh), and would have suffered serious withdrawals if I couldn't continue using it in Linux. It's been with me in CentOS, Ubuntu and Arch.

I'm not expecting many people to use Proxo because it does require Wine in Linux. I hate Wine, but I love Proxomitron, so I had to suck it up. Luckily, Proxo is a simple executable requiring no "installation" and it works perfectly under Wine (unlike most things I've tried using in Wine).

Again, this is just an aside for those that may be interested.

Note:
I use a pre-made filter set by Sidke (Google it) with a few of my own customizations. An example of one of mine:

[HTTP headers]
In = FALSE
Out = TRUE
Key = "X-Moz: Microsummary"
Match = "*microsummary*"
Replace = "$RDIR(http://local.ptron/killed.gif)"

The above filter kills the connection to websites that is made every time you simply check the Properties of a bookmark in FireFox 2.*. Did you even know it did that? smile FF nicely makes a connection, downloads certain content and sends the X-Moz header which essentially tells the domain you have their website bookmarked. Some call it a feature, but I call it something else.

Check it out if it looks interesting.

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#9 2007-08-14 02:22:29

veek
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Re: Kazehakase

Wow I am loving this!

Thanks for posting about this browser, I'd never heard of it before.
A while ago I was looking for basically this exact thing.

Something smaller than Firefox, but with more complete features than Dillo:
Mouse gestures, tabs, and the ability to handle complex Javascript, and Flash. 

It loads up really fast, plus it has some interesting features.
I'm now a big fan of having all my tabs stacked on the right side of the screen
extending vertically instead of directly under the address bar.

Sweet!

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#10 2007-09-15 19:45:36

strummer
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Re: Kazehakase

Firefox is my favorite browser, although I like Opera also..

Recently I tried Dillo just for fun, and it was amazingly fast! I remember when I had P150Mhz/32-64Mb RAM, and I used (e)links with it, because Firefox was so slow. Can't believe I didn't know about Dillo then, it was year 2004 wink Of course, now my computer is little faster, so I use Firefox.

I read about Kazehakase and tried it, but it just feels slow.. I don't know if there's something wrong with my machine. I wish Kazehakase would work better, maybe I could replace Firefox with it.

My computer is p3-1Ghz/640Mb/Fluxbox..


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#11 2007-09-15 20:15:44

shining
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Re: Kazehakase

strummer wrote:

I read about Kazehakase and tried it, but it just feels slow.. I don't know if there's something wrong with my machine. I wish Kazehakase would work better, maybe I could replace Firefox with it.

Only the interface is lighter and faster.
The rendering engine is the same..

So it's only slightly better than firefox. But if it's worse, there is indeed a problem smile


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#12 2007-09-15 20:18:42

skottish
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Re: Kazehakase

Kazehakase should have ruby-libglade as a dependency (x86_64). I filed a bug report.

Last edited by skottish (2007-09-15 20:19:12)

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#13 2007-10-20 22:39:53

idjut
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Re: Kazehakase

I've used this browser for some weeks now and the only thing that bugs me is that when using the arrows it stops scrolling when the mousepointer hits an ad. This also annoyed me in firefox, but not in opera. Is there some way to turn it off? I've glanced at the detailed configurations without avail.


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#14 2007-10-20 23:26:10

kth5
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Re: Kazehakase

madhatter wrote:

How does it compare to Epiphany?

It doesn't require lots of gnome like epiphany does. smile

Last edited by kth5 (2007-10-20 23:26:23)


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#15 2007-11-21 13:02:26

sm4tik
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Re: Kazehakase

I've been looking for something like this for my daily browsing, so I gave it a try. IMO Dillo is a good option for a text browser replacement, but as we all know, the webmasters today are not all just into plain HTML wink But about Kazekahase, I have to say I'm looking forward for the development of this one! For all my daily stuff I use my 400MHz/256MB thinkpad, so I'm very happy to see a lighter solution for firefox!

And now the real question.. Does anyone else get this with 0.5.0 installed from community?
(kazehakase:7934): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_widget_get_pointer: assertion `GTK_IS_WIDGET (widget)' failed

I searched the web for it, but found only one post from a German forum, not too much help there..

Sakari

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#16 2007-11-21 13:20:20

AndyRTR
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Re: Kazehakase

try a different gtk theme.

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#17 2007-11-21 14:27:24

Xilon
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Re: Kazehakase

I wish I could move the url bar onto the same bar the file menu is on. Oh well. For normal browsing I'd still stick with FF, the UI is more flexible and it has extensions. If Kaze gets extensions _then_ I might completely switch.

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#18 2007-11-23 13:33:56

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Re: Kazehakase

I'm trying out Kazehakase but it doesn't seem to obey to my commands tongue

I tried to edit the keyword URL in about:config (I love to use yubnub for that) but it keeps working as the default one, using Google, I have also enabled it, still no success, am I the only one with this issue?


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#19 2007-11-23 14:39:33

elliott
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Re: Kazehakase

I tried it out for a while, but in a side by side comparison with the same pages open, Firefox used 6% less RAM, I only have 248mb available, every one counts. I think the difference had to do with adblock and noscript, I didn't try without them.

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