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#1 2007-09-18 12:52:55

lloeki
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archlinux.log EOF.

Well, I guess this is a goodbye.

All in all, archlinux was a pleasant experience. Yet, there were points that were not satisfying me. Some were related to Arch, some others not at all, and some not even related to linux and computing.

Basically:
- Due to various reasons, I can't cope anymore with the rolling release model.
- Recent progress in various areas (init, gnome, gtk, X, udev, hal, dbus, kernel, etc...) make some other distros attractive again (features, or lack of it that made me lean towards bleeding-edge previously).
- Not to sound paranoid, but the lack of package signing in pacman makes me feel uneasy.
- I like to experience some other things from time to time (and to their full extend, not just popping a livecd in, or in a VM)
- Blah, blah, blah.

So I picked up Ubuntu, which I installed (successfully) on many (both tech-savvy and computer illiterates) people computers beginning in the linux world, but never really used myself. I decided to take a look at 7.10 Tribe 5 and was really surprised to be able to match my current Arch in terms of technology. Surprised enough to stick with it.

That said, I consider Arch an excellent distro, both a young one and one that will without a doubt thrive even more in the future, certainly matching the other big names. And I will certainly come back in a bunch of years...

To close this post of mine, I'd like to thank both Judd Vinet & the devs, and the community altogether, which is a rather unique one, at least for its flameproofness. Oh yes I really enjoyed reading/asking questions like what's the best FS & the likes and actually get useful, educated answers, and 100% pollution-free.

Thank you all, and see you later.

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#2 2007-09-18 12:54:24

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

They always come back smile

See you soon.

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#3 2007-09-18 15:34:18

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

Best of luck in your future endeavors lloeki.
Feel free to drop by once in a while and say hello. Don't think you have to stay away just because you may not use arch anymore.

Have fun!
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#4 2007-09-18 16:39:15

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

iphitus wrote:

They always come back smile

See you soon.

Yeah, you got that right, lol

I think the wide variety of distributions make people feel the need to experiment even when they are satisfied with their current distribution.

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#5 2007-09-18 17:25:07

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.


I am a gated community.

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#6 2007-11-18 11:18:42

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#7 2007-11-18 19:55:09

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

lloeki,

You've helped me before in the past, and I thank you for that. Good luck, and more importantly, have fun in whatever you choose to do.

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#8 2007-11-23 19:18:18

lloeki
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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

well actually as byte pointed, I'm back. and indeed I hope to have fun again smile


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#9 2007-11-24 12:04:41

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

iphitus wrote:

They always come back smile

Seems to be an unwritten rule, i experienced this too smile


want a modular and tweaked KDE for arch? try kdemod

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#10 2007-11-24 14:07:41

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

as ive said before arch spoils u way too much.
everything is SO easy to configure, packages SO easy to make and install with pkgbuilds and pacman.
if u get yourself familiar with the way things works with arch, even for a little while,  its very difficult to find another os that will come close to your met by arch standards.

Last edited by dolby (2007-11-24 16:08:04)


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#11 2007-11-24 15:21:54

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

Indeed. I always jumped between Ubuntu and Arch before, and I always end up removing Ubuntu and installing Arch. Even though Ubuntu/Debian are touted as "stable" distros, they tend to break for me more than Arch (at least for me)
Ditto about pacman being easier than dpkg/apt-get... You need a rocket scientist to build a DFSG-compliant deb package (I mean a _real_ one, not those checkinstall debs floating everywhere)

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#12 2007-11-24 15:40:06

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

Phrakture's mind control powers are too strong for us of the flesh. The sooner we all admit this, the easier it will be to accept his dominance.

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#13 2007-11-24 15:50:46

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

skottish wrote:

Phrakture's mind control powers are too strong for us of the flesh. The sooner we all admit this, the easier it will be to accept his dominance.

ROFL!
It's nice to have a developer with a good sense of humor, too.

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#14 2007-11-24 17:14:40

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

hehe, yea phrak is cool smile

arch however, must be utterly evil. I have experienced this several times before. And not very long ago a friend decided to try linux and went for kubuntu, I offered to help him out since it can be quite confusing in the beginning..didn't go all to well. Guess I'm much to used to the arch way by now. smile

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#15 2007-11-24 18:33:51

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

Its funny how after getting comfortable in slackware and coming to Arch how things that seem 'complicated' or 'too difficult' for some users seem 'natural' for me where what those users consider 'natural and easy' seems 'complicated and difficult'. I guess its just one of those things that KISS does to you after a long time wink

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#16 2007-11-24 19:11:20

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

delphiki wrote:

Its funny how after getting comfortable in slackware and coming to Arch how things that seem 'complicated' or 'too difficult' for some users seem 'natural' for me where what those users consider 'natural and easy' seems 'complicated and difficult'. I guess its just one of those things that KISS does to you after a long time wink

So true, so true big_smile

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#17 2007-11-25 11:42:05

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

to this day, I'm still totally baffled by the utter simplicity and efficiency of /etc/rc.conf


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#18 2007-11-27 22:14:36

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

I did the same hop-away-and-back-again, but it took me a bit longer.
We always come back, indeed.. big_smile

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#19 2007-11-28 12:23:10

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

Me too, back again, planning on sticking around this time.

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#20 2007-11-28 13:43:35

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Re: archlinux.log EOF.

About a year ago decided to install Ubuntu. I was so impressed that I replaced ARCH. Took about two days before ARCH was back up and running. I was just too used to configuring my pc instead of having it configured for me.


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