XFCE-svn: What's different from stable release XFCE4?

dhave · 2007-11-27 20:25:23

I see a good bit of interest in XFCE-svn here. I'm wondering if somebody can tell me some of the newer features that it has as compared with the current release version of XFCE.

Thanks.

buttons · 2007-11-27 20:47:16

I can speak for thunar and xfwm mainly. Thunar has a substantial number of bugs related to hal and flash devices fixed (or at least supporting the fdi files which fix them!), and xfwm supports additional compositing options, as well as AWN. XFWM also supports nifty glowy things in the window decorations, like prelighting buttons.

That said I moved away from xfce a while ago. I still use thunar-svn, however. It's a far sight better than maintaining my own patched PKGBUILD on my own system for ages, which is what I did while I was using vanilla xfce.

sunn · 2007-11-28 00:54:08

I, too, were wondering about this.
Additional questions;
There are several bug fixes - but does using the svn packages introduce new any new bugs / instabilities?
This may be a stupid question - and forgive my ignorance in that case - do I need to replace all the xfce4 components with the svn ones if I decide to check it out first hand? Or do the svn packages coexist with the 'regular' ones? I'd particularly like to have a look at xfwm from svn.

buttons · 2007-11-28 01:09:41

sunn wrote:

I, too, were wondering about this.
Additional questions;
There are several bug fixes - but does using the svn packages introduce new any new bugs / instabilities?
This may be a stupid question - and forgive my ignorance in that case - do I need to replace all the xfce4 components with the svn ones if I decide to check it out first hand? Or do the svn packages coexist with the 'regular' ones? I'd particularly like to have a look at xfwm from svn.

Plenty of people around these boards use it regularly without issues. Myself, the desktop would become unmanaged by xfce whenever I used pacman. That was a while ago, though.

Yes, you must replace everything.

sunn · 2007-11-28 01:19:10

Okay, thanks. I'll probably check it out when I'm done with my finals.

dhave · 2007-11-28 06:36:06

Thanks, button.

Sunn, pacman makes the changeover from stable xfce4 to xfce-svn painless. I did it last night in just a few minutes.

pressh · 2007-11-28 08:24:35

If some more people are thinking about switching to xfce-svn, xfce 4.4.2 should be out real soon now according to the xfce-dev mailing list (well they said that last month also, so no promises )

Brian J. Tarricone @ xfce-dev wrote:

Obviously, as people have probably noticed, I haven't had time to
complete the release. Hopefully that'll happen this weekend. Benny
says he might have time to roll new releases of libexo, Thunar, and
Terminal as well, so we'll see...

Note there are some test packages already on the server if you want to test them. There is a link somewhere in the mailing list.

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nDray · 2007-12-04 00:40:05

i don't know if some package was missing or what, but i installed svn a few days ago and several icons were missing. also the menu kept crashing... i'm sticking with stable... That's why I'm using xfce4 anyways....

sunn · 2007-12-04 01:33:49

nDray wrote:

i don't know if some package was missing or what, but i installed svn a few days ago and several icons were missing. also the menu kept crashing... i'm sticking with stable... That's why I'm using xfce4 anyways....

Well xfce 4.4.2 was released today, so I figure the xfce4 packages in the repos will be updated fairly soon.

jacko · 2007-12-04 02:50:34

yay, I just installed xfce, can't wait for the update.

Misfit138 · 2007-12-04 03:20:14

buttons wrote:

.... I moved away from xfce a while ago.

What did you move to, if you don't mind me asking?
I recently started using Xfce on this old laptop. (PIII 650Mhz, 192 MB RAM) It runs extremely well.
I still use KDE on my desktop, but I am pleasantly surprised by Xfce and am learning to like it quite a bit.

buttons · 2007-12-04 03:59:10

Misfit138 wrote:

buttons wrote:
.... I moved away from xfce a while ago.
What did you move to, if you don't mind me asking?
I recently started using Xfce on this old laptop. (PIII 650Mhz, 192 MB RAM) It runs extremely well.
I still use KDE on my desktop, but I am pleasantly surprised by Xfce and am learning to like it quite a bit.

Openbox at first. One day I decided I didn't need a panel, and that was that. Plus xfwm has terrible themes. I might've had other reasons but they aren't coming to me.

Now I use XMonad, and am enthralled. I don't understand how I ever lived without tiling.

nDray · 2007-12-04 13:34:36

when i tried xfce-svn one thing caught my eye: the binary clock. The binary type isn't listed in the new stable packages, though!! Is this normal?

b9anders · 2007-12-06 10:32:21

with 4.4.2 now out mainly as a bug fix release, as there any reason to try svn? I am using the regular brand and might be willing to try it out if there were any real differences between the two...

xsdnyd · 2007-12-06 11:09:07

i used xfce-svn till yesterday, but it became too buggy for me.
* the option that xfce manages my desktop (to display wallpapers and icons) got unchecked every now and then,
* if i installed new programs which create a menu entry the xfce-menu plugin crashed,
* the menu can't be edited because they use a new format which is incompatible with the menu editor,
* thunar-svn lost all my program associations (open avi files with vlc and so on) and all icon images...

i just downgraded to xfce 4.4.2 and must say it is really good. there are only few differences...

for example:
the binary clock, the systray in xfce-svn can hide certain icons and display an "<" arrow to show them,
i don't remember any more differences...

Last edited by xsdnyd (2007-12-06 11:23:25)

b9anders · 2007-12-06 12:29:27

thanks. Guess I'll be staying put.

nDray · 2007-12-06 12:53:03

my clock doesn't have binary clock option!!

What is wrong?

elasticdog · 2007-12-08 20:56:43

I've tracked both the stable version and svn for Xfce. For a long time, there weren't too many stable releases, so svn was the way to go, but there are quite a few instances where things got borked. I much prefer the stable releases, and it seems like they're back to making them on a fairly regular basis (more so than before, anyway), so for most people I'd recommend just using the official releases.

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