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I'm curious as to what methods Arch64 users use to run their 32 bit applications and what is your opinion on them.
I myself relies mostly on lib32 packages to run a few applications that I need (mostly flash & wine), which works quite nicely expect it makes my system feel a bit 'messier'. chroot looks like a nice option but I've not tried it out yet (it looks complicated to setup to be honest).
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I myself relies mostly on lib32 packages to run a few applications
Yup. Me too.
it makes my system feel a bit 'messier'
I keep trying the 64 bit "substitutes" with increasingly better results, but I still have 32 bit Flash, Skype, and Lightscribe, on this box.
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I use a 32bit chroot and exec everything with dchroot. Acutally it's only fiefox/flash and folding@home that need 32bit.
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I also have the 32bit chroot, and most of the time run the applications with dchroot. I run firefox/flash, Wine, and Stepmania. It is a pretty solid solution, not as messy as using lib32 packages.
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The only 32bits software I was using was nspluginwrapper for flash.
Since I installed swfdec - working with flash the way I want to - no more 32 bits on my arch64.
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I use a chroot to run Epson's 32bit-only binary driver for my 3170 Photo scanner plus XSane and VueScan - something of a waste of disk space but needs must etc. - and lib32 packages for everything else that's 32bit, including nspluginwrapper-flash, CrossOver Linux and Google Earth.
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32-bit chroot with dchroot to launch stuff, used mostly for wine but I also got Firefox with flash installed incase I would really need it.
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I use a chroot to run Epson's 32bit-only binary driver for my 3170 Photo scanner plus XSane and VueScan - something of a waste of disk space but needs must etc. - and lib32 packages for everything else that's 32bit, including nspluginwrapper-flash, CrossOver Linux and Google Earth.
It's good to know that someone has VueScan working on their x64 box. It is the one thing that keeps me dual booting with Vista.
However, just like Zodmaner, chroot looks complicated.
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azleifel wrote:I use a chroot to run Epson's 32bit-only binary driver for my 3170 Photo scanner plus XSane and VueScan - something of a waste of disk space but needs must etc. - and lib32 packages for everything else that's 32bit, including nspluginwrapper-flash, CrossOver Linux and Google Earth.
It's good to know that someone has VueScan working on their x64 box. It is the one thing that keeps me dual booting with Vista.
However, just like Zodmaner, chroot looks complicated.
Setting up a chroot isn't that difficult, there are just has a lot of steps to follow! VueScan works for me in a 32bit chroot with just one issue - for some reason it loses the ability to initialise my scanner and I have to run XSane first to do the initialisation before starting VueScan. I had the same problem running VueScan in a 32bit chroot on 64bit Ubuntu, so it's not an Arch-specific problem, and Ed Hamrick wasn't able to help when I emailed him.
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I've given up on flash because it's so buggy so I am now 32bit free. It feels great to be pure 64bit. I have replaced flash with swfdec. Although it doesn't work in Konqueror, it works fine in Firefox and is compatible with quite a few websites, so I'm fine with it.
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Since this thread started, I've also permanently dropped Flash for Swfdec. I rarely use Flash anyway. I'm hoping that the Skype people get their 64 bit issues worked out soon. That would knock me down to only a couple of libs "needed" for Lightscribe.
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running chroot here aswell with dchroot to launch. Mostly for Opera, wine, and a few odd programs that I don't use very often, that just won't build under 64bit.
In a way, I feel like my system is pure 64bit, considering pacman (in the main system) knows nothing about the chroot. Also because, If I chose to get rid of it, I don't have to remove any packages, but Just delete the chroot directory and remove the chroot daemon. I think it was worth the extra trouble, although, with the help of the wiki, it was pretty easy to set up.
I guess, to me, it's like.. instead of adding chocolate to the milk, your drinking milk with a chocolate chaser.
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lib32-packages here, but I keep the paths off ld.so.conf so they dont interference. Custom script to set paths and variables and launch the program.
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Was running my 32bit apps using the lib32 method, but have recently switched to the chroot method.
Definitely prefer the chroot method, it just feels so much cleaner to me.
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