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#1 2007-12-23 02:07:49

smartboyathome
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Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

Hello, I am trying out Arch Linux alongside Ubuntu Linux on my external USB drive. Ubuntu boots fine, but after I install Arch, GRUB comes up giving me error 17. I don't know what could be different between my two installations except that I installed Arch while my internal HD was in, while I installed Ubuntu while it wasn't. Help?

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#2 2007-12-23 20:13:41

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Re: Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

check the drive settings in /boot/grub/menu.lst

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#3 2007-12-24 00:30:36

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Re: Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

Hi smartboyathome. I've seen you around the ubuntuforums... smile
First of all, you were asked if you need support for booting of USB drives (if i'm not mistaken) during the installation routine. I assume you did that? Because you need mkinitcpio.conf to include support for USB devices during boot. I guess you'll have to get it up and running first.

If the internal drive wasn't attached when installing, then your usb hd became /dev/sdA, and when you put it back in your usb hd probably is /dev/sdB. That's gonna confuse /etc/fstab, and menu.lst.
Could you paste that menu.lst here? What root is that menu.lst in (ubuntu/arch)? Can you still boot ubuntu from that same menu.lst?

Last edited by pelle.k (2007-12-24 00:32:02)


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#4 2007-12-25 04:55:42

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Re: Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

I set Ubuntu's menu.lst back for now, but still can't boot to Arch. I think I figured out why I can't (the install messes up when using GRUB, as GRUB can't figure out what file system it is on). Also, I think I may need to take out my internal HD to install it to the external (I had to do that with Ubuntu, but I was told it was just in case). Anyway, here is my menu.lst for my working Ubuntu (where the Arch Linux entry doesn't work because it says that that one is not supported by my BIOS for some odd reason), and the one for arch.

Ubuntu:

# menu.lst - See: grub(8), info grub, update-grub(8)
#            grub-install(8), grub-floppy(8),
#            grub-md5-crypt, /usr/share/doc/grub
#            and /usr/share/doc/grub-doc/.

## default num
# Set the default entry to the entry number NUM. Numbering starts from 0, and
# the entry number 0 is the default if the command is not used.
#
# You can specify 'saved' instead of a number. In this case, the default entry
# is the entry saved with the command 'savedefault'.
# WARNING: If you are using dmraid do not use 'savedefault' or your
# array will desync and will not let you boot your system.
default        0

## timeout sec
# Set a timeout, in SEC seconds, before automatically booting the default entry
# (normally the first entry defined).
timeout        5

## hiddenmenu
# Hides the menu by default (press ESC to see the menu)
hiddenmenu

# Pretty colours
#color cyan/blue white/blue

## password ['--md5'] passwd
# If used in the first section of a menu file, disable all interactive editing
# control (menu entry editor and command-line)  and entries protected by the
# command 'lock'
# e.g. password topsecret
## password --md5 $1$gLhU0/$aW78kHK1QfV3P2b2znUoe/
# password topsecret

#
# examples
#
# title        Windows 95/98/NT/2000
# root        (hd0,0)
# makeactive
# chainloader    +1
#
# title        Linux
# root        (hd0,1)
# kernel    /vmlinuz root=/dev/hda2 ro
#

#
# Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST

### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

## ## Start Default Options ##
## default kernel options
## default kernel options for automagic boot options
## If you want special options for specific kernels use kopt_x_y_z
## where x.y.z is kernel version. Minor versions can be omitted.
## e.g. kopt=root=/dev/hda1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8=root=/dev/hdc1 ro
##      kopt_2_6_8_2_686=root=/dev/hdc2 ro
# kopt=root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash

## Setup crashdump menu entries
## e.g. crashdump=1
# crashdump=0

## default grub root device
## e.g. groot=(hd0,0)
# groot=(hd0,0)

## should update-grub create alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. alternative=true
##      alternative=false
# alternative=true

## should update-grub lock alternative automagic boot options
## e.g. lockalternative=true
##      lockalternative=false
# lockalternative=false

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with the
## alternatives
## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=quiet splash

## should update-grub lock old automagic boot options
## e.g. lockold=false
##      lockold=true
# lockold=false

## Xen hypervisor options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenhopt=

## Xen Linux kernel options to use with the default Xen boot option
# xenkopt=console=tty0

## altoption boot targets option
## multiple altoptions lines are allowed
## e.g. altoptions=(extra menu suffix) extra boot options
##      altoptions=(recovery) single
# altoptions=(recovery mode) single

## controls how many kernels should be put into the menu.lst
## only counts the first occurence of a kernel, not the
## alternative kernel options
## e.g. howmany=all
##      howmany=7
# howmany=all

## should update-grub create memtest86 boot option
## e.g. memtest86=true
##      memtest86=false
# memtest86=true

## should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system
## can be true or false
# updatedefaultentry=false

## should update-grub add savedefault to the default options
## can be true or false
# savedefault=false

## ## End Default Options ##

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-13-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-13-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-13-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-13-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-13-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-13-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

title        Arch Linux
root        /dev/sdb3
chainloader    +1

Arch:

# Config file for GRUB - The GNU GRand Unified Bootloader
# /boot/grub/menu.lst

# DEVICE NAME CONVERSIONS 
#
#  Linux           Grub
# -------------------------
#  /dev/fd0        (fd0)
#  /dev/hda        (hd0)
#  /dev/hdb2       (hd1,1)
#  /dev/hda3       (hd0,2)
#

#  FRAMEBUFFER RESOLUTION SETTINGS
#     +-------------------------------------------------+
#          | 640x480    800x600    1024x768   1280x1024
#      ----+--------------------------------------------
#      256 | 0x301=769  0x303=771  0x305=773   0x307=775
#      32K | 0x310=784  0x313=787  0x316=790   0x319=793
#      64K | 0x311=785  0x314=788  0x317=791   0x31A=794
#      16M | 0x312=786  0x315=789  0x318=792   0x31B=795
#     +-------------------------------------------------+

# general configuration:
timeout   5
default   0
color light-blue/black light-cyan/blue

# boot sections follow
# each is implicitly numbered from 0 in the order of appearance below
#
# TIP: If you want a 1024x768 framebuffer, add "vga=773" to your kernel line.
#
#-*

# (0) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux
root   (hd1,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26.img

# (1) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux Fallback
root   (hd1,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26-fallback.img

# (1) Windows
title Ubuntu Linux 7.10
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

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#5 2007-12-25 21:29:46

pelle.k
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Registered: 2006-04-30
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Re: Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

You got it almost right. The chainloader is for windows, and foreign bootloaders.
Assuming you are actually using the ubuntu menu.lst, this is what it should look like.

<snip>

## ## End Default Options ##

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-14-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-14-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-14-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-13-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-13-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-13-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-13-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-13-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-13-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-12-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-12-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-12-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash quiet splash
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic
quiet

title        Ubuntu 7.10, kernel 2.6.22-10-generic (recovery mode)
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.22-10-generic root=UUID=d76897f5-a728-4f06-b3d6-7291b03100fe ro vga=791 splash single
initrd        /boot/initrd.img-2.6.22-10-generic

title        Ubuntu 7.10, memtest86+
root        (hd0,0)
kernel        /boot/memtest86+.bin
quiet

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# (0) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux
root   (hd1,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26.img

# (1) Arch Linux
title  Arch Linux Fallback
root   (hd1,2)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz26 root=/dev/sdb3 ro
initrd /boot/kernel26-fallback.img

# (1) Windows
title Ubuntu Linux 7.10
rootnoverify (hd1,0)
makeactive
chainloader +1

"Your beliefs can be like fences that surround you.
You must first see them or you will not even realize that you are not free, simply because you will not see beyond the fences.
They will represent the boundaries of your experience."

SETH / Jane Roberts

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#6 2007-12-26 00:12:53

smartboyathome
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Re: Ubuntu installed fine, Arch did, but won't boot.

Thanks, I will reboot in a bit and try this.

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